I guess you have just started watching the NBA. Look up Vince Carter/ Tmac feud. Look up which side Mcgrady's teammates took. Look what Mcgrady's mother said about Toronto and VC Look up what the Orlando Sentinal said about Mcgrady being a ball stopper.
so again, sugarland, tell me how one player who you claim to be SO DETRIMENTAL to a team can achieved what he did? b/c the player you describe would be marburyed immediately. and to get MVP votes? that would be UNHEARD of. the player you are describing would NOT even last in this league, you do know that right? and you know the coach who called mcgrady out? that wasn't for 13 years? that was butch carter. he called mcgrady out in his first 2 years. when tmac proved him wrong, he got fired. and yet JVG still praises tmac to this day, calling him the 2nd best SG when healthy on ESPN just last year. he has NOTHING but praises for mcgrady every time he has to say something about tracy publicly. adelman claims in the portland series how having tracy would make the game EASIER for yao. i'm sure you saw that press conference. so who again?
the feud was during CONTRACT NEGOTIATIONS when tracy didn't resign. there was a misunderstanding. tracy and vince both spoke on that. you do remember that right? oh right, that beat writer from the orlando sentinel who constantly rips mcgrady. you'll take his word over the rest right? just answer this simple question: how does one be a ball stopper and routinely get MVP votes? he was top 8 in MVP voting (top 4 twice) for 6 years. MVP. MOST VALUABLE PLAYER. but oh yea, ball stoppers can get votes.
You asked me to point out the coach who called out Mcgrady in Toronto so I did. It seems like you knew Butch Carter did it so why did you pretend to play dumb. You know JVG called out Mcgrady when he was his coach. here is the quote "I don't know," said Jeff Van Gundy. "Some guys' motors run super-high. A guy like Kevin Garnett, a great player, his motor is always running high. I can only reinforce when he (McGrady) plays with energy.” Here is one from the Big O "Then there's some I'd like to see play smarter. There's too much one-on-one play, where guys just come down and shoot like it's a playground game. You know who does that? I hope it works out for him, because he promised Houston would get out of the first round. I'm talking about Tracy McGrady. He just shoots the ball from anywhere. If he's making them, that's fine, but he ain't gonna make them forever." Oscar Robertson And I don't need to repeat what Coach Adelman said last season, which forced Mcgrady to apologize to the team
so sugarland, tell me how does he always get MVP votes when he manages to play 60+ games? the player you're describing shouldn't last more than a year in this league.
MCgrady and Vince Carter can't coexist during their prime. They both need to be the man. Mcgrady cries when he has very little talent surrounding him. He whines and moans when he is surrounded by talent too because he wants to be the man. Notice how much Ron Artest called out Mcgrady. The only star player who can get along with Mcgrady is the humble Yao Ming. The Raptors made it past the 1st round when Mcgrady left. The Magic made it past the 1st round when Mcgrady left. The Rockets advanced when Mcgrady missed the playoffs. Coincidence? Maybe or maybe not. Team Chemistry is very important to winning playoff series.
once again, re-writing history. when he signed with orlando, do you know who else that signed to play there also? oh yea, some guy named grant hill, just a unanimous top 5 player at the time, and was arguably the best all-around player in the league. oh yea, tracy was gonna be the man there a 15 point scorer was going to overtake grant hill to be DA MAN in orlando. re-writing history must be fun. so now you're claiming tracy can't get along with other stars/players. oh man, this is getting fun. so you're saying tracy mcgrady is a team-chemistry killer? where were you during the 22 game winning streak when tracy was JOCKED by the entire basketball world for being such a "leader," when the rockets were "america's team" for a brief moment b/c it defines teamwork and passion. oh yea, re-writing history once again.
Simple Tracy Mcgrady is one of the most gifted player to ever lace up his sneakers. His talent is on par with Kobe and maybe just slightly below Jordan. This is where Mcgrady is trash. His poor work ethic and inability to coexist with his talented teammates cost him greatness. He could have been one of the greatest of all time but instead he prefers to "play street ball" as the Big O pointed out in disgust. Imagine how many titles the Raptors would have won if Mcgrady checked his ego and worked hard playing with VC. That was a MJ/Pippen combo right there. Imagine if Tmac would have checked his ego and didn't call out Dwight Howard and decided to play with him in Orlando. Instead Mcgrady wanted Emeka Okafor and fought with his GM.
Trust me if Grant Hill was healthy, Mcgrady would not be able to coexist with him. Maybe now he can but a young Mcgrady wanted to be the man and win scoring titles. He didn't want to play second fiddle or play team ball. Wow I spend a lot of time arguing with a Mcgrady doll hugger. I'm out-
talent does not earn you MVP votes. and all those things you just claimed tracy to be do not earn you MVP votes. so these must "other" reasons for him to earn some votes. so enlighten me.
Here's some info I found interesting. Tracy McGrady has averaged more assists than Vince Carter each of the past 9 seasons. He's also recorded a better assist/turnover ratio than Carter each of the last 8 seasons, and 10 of the 11 seasons since Carter entered the NBA.
I believe in players that will die on the floor for their teammates, and their city. There is a difference between Tracy and the likes of Kobe, D-Wade, Lebron, Garnett, Duncan. And it has absolutely nothing to do with injuries or talent. Maybe it takes a contract year for someone like McGrady to go to work...Goodie for us...
MVP recognition is given to a player who has great individual talent, but he also has to somewhat help the team. You can average 50ppg, but if you only win 20 games, more often than not, you will not win the MVP award.
Nice try Jordan is a far superior jumper than T-mac. Stats don't even lie. MJ > T-mac, never the other way around.
Spoiler Spoiler Spoiler Spoiler Spoiler Spoiler All three who been to the finals. Its amazing that you think MJ Wade Kobe LBJ Always settle for the long jumper when the game is on the line................ T-mac is predictable when its 2 minutes left and he has the ball. Its either a pass or longer jumper @ the top of the key. Do you guys even know where T-mac ranks in game winner shots? www.82games.com
Sorry here is the correct link on Game winning shots since 2003 http://www.82games.com/gamewinningshots.htm Our boy SF has the same game winning shots as Tmac with 10 less FGA.
