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Tracy McGrady: Rockets don't need a roster change, they need a coaching change.

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Rasheed, May 29, 2019.

  1. bmelo

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    According to posters here we are great on both headcoaching and leadership. Nobody can critique Harden or MDMA. Yet we are loosing in playoffs since 96. Something isnt adding up here. Let me remind you that when gsw actually tried on RS like MDA and Harden tries every year they went 73. That when Lbj tried on rs he took Ilgauskas Varejao and Larry Hughes to 66wins etc. We pay too much attention to rs over here and these NBA legends with kobe shaq Tmac and others were right all along that we aint winning nothing in playoffs
     
  2. biff17

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    What does he need to be held accountable for?
     
  3. mockster

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    I mean he actually does, all arguments aside this dude was scoring 30, 40 points a game but had a trash team, plus we all know the Utah series was rigged.

    Tbh if it wasent for a bad team and him and Yao constantly being hurt they had a good chance.
     
  4. DaDakota

    DaDakota If you want to know, just ask!

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    That depends, sometimes it is being engaged with others are initiating the offense, other times it is playing defense and/or boxing out on rebounds - if he needs a rest pull him out and sit him......

    Or pushing the ball up the court and running MDA's 7 seconds or less offense....

    Lots of stuff.....really.

    DD
     
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  5. biff17

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    T Mac had a 3-1 lead and still lost in the 1st round of the playoffs.

    Harden just averaged 30 points in the series yet your making excuses for Mcgrady.

    Why is that?
     
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  6. biff17

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    MDA has not run a 7 second or less offense since he was at Phoenix which shows you don't have a clue.

    Everything else you wrote hear is your opinion of what he is not doing and we all know you are biased in your opinion on Harden.E

    Talk about nitpicking.

    And the crazy thing is Van Gundy had all of these issues with T Mac yet he wants to hold somebody else accountable, when could not handle criticism.
     
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  7. jcmoon

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    no one can hold him accountable....once he signed that supermax, he holds the power....actually i don't think he'd mind getting traded to Florida, CA,NY or another bigger party scene.. He is who he is. He needs the ball, and isn't the same player off the ball...He's not curry or thompson and not that type who can run aroudn screens and rise up quickly. Asking him to play another way dimnishes his value...he's not going to start setting screens and rolling cuz he won't be a good roller. he's a one trick pony and pretty good at it for about 3 quarters in the playoffs....its his team and he knows it. he sells the tickets and keeps tilman proffittable.

    he's going to be the same player no matter where he goes. He's a great ISO player who is a tweener on defense, who needs to be hidden, guarding the post and going for steals. He's going to have the same problems going wherever he goes.Either build the whole offense around him( AND Defense) or there's no sense in having him...unless he's a sixth man later in his career like Lou Will.

    He needs to be surrounded with another superstar who is clutch, and great defenders at every position around him who can shoot the 3. that's the only way any team will win a championship with him.
     
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    MDA is respected by Harden because MDA doesn’t hold him accountable for anything.
    A respected coach would be able to call out Harden when he’s slacking and have no blowback. I’m sure Kerr, Pop, and Doc all call out their players when they are slacking.
    Harden needs to be properly coached is all I’m saying, unfortunately it has to be by a respected coach which there isn’t many available.
     
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    baller4life315 Contributing Member

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    Look,

    You’re talking to a Steelers fan here, so welcome to the “All our coach does is win, but it’s still somehow not good enough” club, Rockets fans.

    Don’t be like that. I deal with it enough with my friends and family back home. The grass is NOT always greener on the other side.
     
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  10. Nook

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    T-Mac doesn’t know his head from his ass. He is a loser. I’m not sure why anyone cares about what McGrady thinks.
     
  11. kjayp

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    Let's be honest...

    Who here thinks Mike '7 seconds' DAntoni ever said "James take yer time bringing the ball up - we got 8 seconds - use them all... and then hang out at the top of the key dribbling and burning some time... then when we got 5 or 6 seconds left lets get a play going..."

    Do you think MDA ever said "We're better off taking Harden out of the mix on offense - so let's have him hang out at half court while CP3 tries to run a 4 on 4..."

    MDA is an enabler... he knows Harden is the superstar who's gonna pump up his offensive stats - or the guy that can torpedo the team in less than a quarter - like SAS game 6...

    MDA had been shown the door enough times that he just keeps his head down and tries to not step on any toes that could get him 'McHaled'...

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    Furthermore... why cant we admit problems exist without them belittled as 'not the main problem'?
    When a problem or shortcoming exists it should be corrected - not ignored bc there are more severe issues... address them all!
     
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    How the hell did this scrub get in the hall of fame and my boy Gil arenas didn’t. Both were high volume scorers who never made it far in playoffs
     
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    That interview was staged, at least on Tracy's part. You can see he's not being honest there. That was just for the media.
     
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    Check out our Pace stats in every year that Harden has been here up to the all star break last season. That includes 1 and a little over a half season with Mike here.

    Something changed drastically at that point. Prior we were always amongst the leaders in pace. I believe it was absolutely an organizational decision.

    Obviously you don’t.

    Any theories why Harden chose that point in time to finally have his way after years of playing high pace?

    Edit. Unrelated fun fact. The lowest pace team this year(not us) was more uptempo than those Suns teams.
     
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  15. kjayp

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    again the stats dont tell the whole story....

    Pace takes into account every play that Harden dribbles the air outta the ball at the top of the key...
    It also takes into account everytime GG rushes down and chucks an ill advised 3 with no rebounders in place... lol

    for all teams it includes when tenacious D forces a team to use the whole clock and finally take a last second shot with the clock expiring...
    it also takes into account teams that are protecting a lead and trying to milk the clock....

    there are plenty of reasons for pace to be impacted... but when you watch our games you can see its a conscience decision on hardens part not to get into the offense at an earlier juncture... whether he's taking a breather or trying to lull his defender into a state of boredom or build drama before doing his thing... idk... but id much rather see us pushing the ball earlier in the shot clock looking for defensive lapses and then resetting if its not there the first or second time...

    I think we started slowing the pace bc we were among the oldest teams in the league at the time (only SAS was older?)... so it made sense not to run old legs to the point of injury... but like many things we do, we take a good idea and run it to the nth degree until it brings about other concerns (like lack of easy fast break points and shortening our window in which to get a good shot...)... or we couldve just lengthened the rotation - but then we're back to MDA's trust issues...

    Obviously our offense is very potent - but not potent enough to dethrone the GSW to this point... maybe by maximizing a few more opportunities (fast break points, pressing the d earlier looking for lapses, smarter shot selection instead of just trying to chuck 50+ 3 pointers a game, etc...) we can overcome the differential... 2 or 3 more buckets a game (scored or denied on d) could have swung that series...
     
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    They should hire Rick Adelman, he holds his max contract players accountable....
     
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    T-Mac is on ESPN, which is the new Clutchfans source of news, gossip, and meaning of life.
     
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    LMAO who gives a $hit what he says, he can't even get to second round. Choke his way to become hall of shame
     
  19. Jturbofuel

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    Rockets need depth and Pringles needs to use the bench in the playoffs he has ran the team down by not using the bench 2 straight years.
     
  20. TEXNIFICENT

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    You just described team building at its finest. And EVERY SUPERSTAR WHO HAS EVER PLAYED WOULD LOVE THAT SCENARIO!
     

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