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Tracy McGrady: Just The Numbers...

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Clutch, May 18, 2009.

  1. Rocket River

    Rocket River Member

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    When he *WANTS* to . . .which is pretty arbitrary . . . and inconsistant

    Rocket River
     
  2. TMac4Life#1

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    ok so what we lost to the blazers in the regular season and beat the in the playoffs. Who got the last laugh??

    and stop blaming mcgrady for that loss. it happens. tmac and ron were both confused and brandon roy hit one hell of a shot. let it go
     
  3. Tom Bombadillo

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    And an ALL DEFENSIVE player, that shoots 40% from 3, and brings his heart and soul to the gym every night, is somehow NOT efficient...
     
  4. TMac4Life#1

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    and lets not forget the toughness he brought here that we was lacking for so many years
     
  5. Rocket River

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    QUESTION: Can TMAC get his jump shooting efficiency rise if he takes on a Peja Roll? Hitting open standstill jumpers?

    If Not,
    Though he may get slower . .. can he curl off a screen like DALE ELLIS and pop catch and shoot jumpers?

    Rocket River
     
  6. SuperMarioBro

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    Clutch, Why didn't you include any statistics from the previous four seasons with McGrady?

    This season was an anomaly because McGrady was never even remotely close to being healthy this year, and the uncertainty of whether he was going to play caused a lot of problems.
     
  7. Supermac34

    Supermac34 President, Von Wafer Fan Club

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    He used to make the difficult jumpers because he could elevate over the defender and his jumper was not defendable. Now that he's lost a few inches off that elevation, guys get into his face, and he's not as good of a scorer from 18 ft as he used to be, especially with his somewhat flat shot.

    He hasn't adjusted his jump shot to make up for the lesser elevation he gets.
     
  8. TMac4Life#1

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    I would rather have Artest be the one that stands still and hit the jumpers like Peja did. I believe Artest is a better stand still shooter than McGrady. Have McGrady create and find the open man in Artest and let him shoot. We've seen how easy it is for McGrady to make something out of his dribbling and how awful it was when Artest did it.
     
  9. DaDakota

    DaDakota Balance wins
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    Why would he put those numbers, this season is probably more accurate as to what you would get going forward.

    DD
     
  10. SuperMarioBro

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    No... for the very reasons I stated in my post, that is not true.

    This season was an anomaly.
     
  11. DaDakota

    DaDakota Balance wins
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    LOL - it is all about efficiency, we have seen what happens when this team plays good defense but can not score the ball...

    The D has been championship caliber for 4+ years, the O, has not....

    Let's get some O....

    If you have 2 inefficient players shooting the most shots....IE Tmac and Rafer, you can not win, the same goes for Ron Artest.

    He plays hard and tough, I love that, but if he can not shoot a decent percentage but yet continues to CHUCK IT like he does, then ultimatly it will cause the team to fall short...as it did.

    How many games did Ron perform well in the playoffs? He shot .394% for crying out loud...that is HORRIBLE !!

    Luther Headish !!!

    DD
     
  12. SamCassell

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    As tinman says, when a 2009er calls out a 99er on who's a bigger Rocket fan, he just embarrasses himself.

    And the streak was a testament to team ball. Yao didn't carry the team, TMac didn't carry the team. Rafer came on strong. Deke was great. Battier was money. But TMac did average 23, 6, and 5 during those games, and he provided us a focal point for the offense when the big guy went down. And that's what I meant by a leader.

    If he ever regains that form (and he's only 29), he'll be an asset. If he doesn't, well, his contract is almost as big an asset, as an expiring deal. Win-win. I have my doubts, but it's possible that he can make a strong comeback. If he does, I hope it's for the Rockets.
     
  13. HeyDude

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    ThaBlackKnight, your post is good but kind of flawed. You're arguing that TMAC makes others better. That part I can agree with, but <b>only </b> when he has the ball in his hands. The problem is, if TMAC doesnt have the ball in his hands, he is totally ineffective. He rarely moves without the ball, he seldom runs the break, and is an inefficient spot up shooter.

    As such, if we get the ball to others like Yao, Scola, and AB, who are all very capable of getting their own shots off (as witnessed), How will Tracy respond to that ? And I dont mean that he'll be jeolous, I mean that if we go away from him for a few plays, especially in the 4th quarter, he completely gets out of rhythm. He is only effective when the ball is in his hands, and in all honestly, I dont trust his 43 % shooting going against the likes of the others you mentioned (MJ, Kobe, Labron, Wade). Not in the 4th quarter.

    If you want to witness a player truely makin his teamates better, just look at Roy's game. He did not have the ball in his hands the whole time. He let Aldridge do his thing, Outlaw do his thing (to our benefit :p ), and he let the game come to him. And when it did, he responded quite well. To shoot 46 % overall and 47 % from 3, against our incredibly sick defense, and while not hogging the ball is just amazing. Not to mention the assists he still racked up.
     
  14. t_mac1

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    from the end of last yr to this year, his knee was NEVER fine clutch. u have to take that into account. when he did take inflammatory injections for the knee for the playoffs last yr, he played superb (though could still shoot better).

    basically, with tracy, YOU KNOW WHAT PLAYS YOU'RE GOING TO RUN. there's a reason we're a better road team (as previous years record indicates compared to this year when he's playing sporadically). on the road, when the pressure is on, we seemingly do not know what to run and just throw passes around to whoever wants to shoot.

    it's all about the knee with tracy. let's see how it holds up when he returns from his rehab.
     
  15. BackNthDay

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    SheMac, McLady, Tgirl, and Ms. Estrogen will not return with the same skills after microfracture surgery. We are talking about returning in Feb/Mar, which means no active NBA basketball since Feb 2009 an entire year.

    Best case scenario we bring him off the bench and he play's maybe 15 minutes per night. He has worn out his welcome with the posting of surgery on his website. This pissed off the entire Rockets front office.

    Please trade him and Barry for Baron Davis, Camby, and De Andre Jordan. Provides 1 solid and 1 potential back up for Yao. The Kid DeAndre is also from Houston.
     
  16. t_mac1

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    from his initial rehab update, he's planning on returning during training camp. and we will see whether that progress is still on pace by his next update.

    again, i love to trade him during this offseason so the distractions won't occur during the season.
     
  17. t_mac1

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    you take any GIMPY player off the court and you have a better team.
     
  18. Chinesekid123

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    it is not a question about whether t-mac will play within the team system, it is a question of how healthy he will be. i hope he can come back fully healthy.

    I think sometime we think to much and ask the wrong questions about t-mac. T-mac does have heart and want to win as bad as the next superstar.
     
  19. Rocket River

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    It may cost us some D
    You are only focusing on one end of the Court
    and
    You are not focusing on Chemistry and Team building


    Rocket River
     
  20. Prince

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    last laugh? that's not this thread is all about.

    stop blaming him? it's not blaming, it's analyzing how we lost the game.
     

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