and if it seems like i look at it too simple, that's because, in my mind, it IS that simple. disagree? act like it. lol.
30 pages and the same answer IT'S NOT TMAC IT'S THE *****TY CR*PPY PEOPLE HE PLAYS WITH IT IS *NEVER* TMAC IT IS ALWAYS THE *****TY CRAPPY FOLX HE PLAYS WITH EVERYONE AROUND HIM IS CRAPPY EXCEPT HIM WHICH IS WHY HE DOES NOT HAVE PLAYOFF SUCCESS If the rockets are successful. . . it is because of tmac when they fail . . .it is because of every one else since they did well this year throw other the disclaimer WELL THEY GOT BETTER ROLE PLAYERs Rocket River ok . . .is that about the extent of it????
He intentionally torpedoed the team this year at the trade deadline. That outweighs anything he did in years past. You're cherry-picking a game to prove your point. Would you like to judge McGrady based on his last performance at Milwaukee? A struggling Brooks needs to be benched. He's effective when he's attacking, but when he plays cautiously, he's useless. Scola's defenders (Gasol/Odom) were both taller, longer, and more athletic. He may have gotten the better of them on certain plays, but in general, they have the advantage over him. Our biggest advantage in terms of mismatches was with Artest against Ariza. Artest has the ability to simply overpower Ariza.
Just about. You forgot TMAC NEVER SHOWING UP IN THE FOURTH QUARTER DOESNT COUNT CUZ HES SO AWESOME IN THE FIRST THREE and TMACS HORRIBLE SHOT SELECTION IS OKAY CUZ RON DOES IT TOO
^ here is kobe's explanation for melo's "success." http://nbcsports.msnbc.com/id/30930297/page/2/ “No, I think they just put better pieces around him,” Bryant said. “I think the guys around him just developed, and adding Chauncey has helped him do what he does best. He’s always been a great passer, always been a great ball-handler, always been a great scorer and shooter. They just have to allow him to be him and do what he does best.” summary - melo's always been great, just never had the teammates until this year. guess it takes one to know one right kobe? here's lebron's reaction for his teammates suckiness after game 3: "if i can clone myself, i would and we would win." i was about to put wade in there too, but eh...
So, wait he's the difference between a championship this year and not. But I thought he's washed up and a bad team player? You guys are so full of crap. You act like he chose drinking pina coladas instead of playing basketball. The guy worked his ass off every year for this team, he's stoked about Artest and suddenly he decides "Screw it, I don't care anymore" These posts are asinine and follow no logical path. A call was made in the offseason to avoid major sugery in favor of minor surgery. In hindsight, maybe that was the wrong call. He made that decision to try to get back faster and help the team win. It didn't work out. The guy could barely walk and he still tried. Even hurt, how many players on the Rockets had a triple double this year other than McGrady? None? The haters favorite player Streetball (aka Von Wafer) does he even have a career triple half double? (Like 5 points/5 rebounds/5 assists) Most people think we've had good coaches. They rave about McGrady. Are they idiots? They aren't committed to winning? Adelman doesn't play Streetball because he wants to lose? Or maybe, just maybe, he sees everything in practice that we don't see. The detailed analysis shows that Streetball only scores. He's flashy, so to the uneducated, ignorant, casual basketball fan he seems to be a better player than he is. You guys complain about McGrady's contract. Well, you can't rewrite contracts on a year to year basis, and he's been worth every penny in prior years. Name one NBA team that has all great contracts that reflect exactly the annual value of every player. Please stop being idiots! I'm sick and tired of this stupidity. Make some logical sense for once. You don't know more about basketball than Adelman and Morey. You don't know more than Jeff Van Gundy. You're not McGrady's doctor and you haven't seen his medical file. You don't know how much his knee hurt. It's just as possible based on the facts you have (none) that McGrady endured more pain than any player on the court this season. No one knows! That's the problem with pain. No one else can feel it. To the reasonable folks on this board. Don't accept conjecture from some drama queens as facts. If Tracy is such a cancer why didn't the Rockets move him when they had a chance before the season. If he's such a cancer, why did they team win 22 in a row? There's a select group of control freaks who want the world to revolve around their concept of it. Guess what, it ain't happenin' that way. If only we had the T-mac of Greece paired with the next best mismatch creator to Lebron James, but we don't. Instead we had a Rockets team that had a great season and has a chance to be better next season with a healthy Yao and a healthy T-mac and a core of solid, young talent.
First of all, I said "potentially" winning a title. On paper, we were the most talented team in the league at the beginning of the season. In any case, here's a logical path you can follow: McGrady slacks on his rehab during the offseason and comes into the season injured. At best, he's ineffective on the court, and at worst, he's a complete liability. Not only that, by always being a game-time decision, he hinders the chemistry development of the team. As the trade deadline approaches, it looks like we might be able to salvage our season with by trading McGrady. McGrady finds out and sabotages any trade by publicly announcing that he was undergoing microfracture surgery. So yes, if we had a legitimate 2nd scoring option, I think we would've been championship contenders.
If you really believe this, can you explain why so many doctors wouldn't recommend microfracture surgery?
Again I cry idiot! IDIOT! Here's a logical dissection for you: You claim he slacked on his rehab. What facts do you have to back this up? He did take time off to try to focus on conditioning, but you have zero evidence to show that he was medically cleared to train and be capable of coming into the season in any better condition than he did. This is the conjecture I was referring to. Your second point rests on an even more unlikely assumption. That had a trade been imminent, McGrady would have passed the physical. Anyone who is going into microfracture surgery the same week wasn't going to pass a physical for a hypothetical trade to go through anyway! And, even in that unlikely scenario what's McGrady's motive to try to torpedo the trade? He would get paid either way. He's an East Coast guy. The Eastern Conference is easier. If he's not wanted, he wants to stay, why?See, I can't see the motive, and neither can you. You're just making up stuff or accepting wild speculation from others as fact. This empty fluff of conjecture and speculation serves no valid purpose for a real Rocket's fan. You create an imaginary slight in order to justify disappointment in previous year's results? What's your motive? The number one fallacy most folks make is assuming that different is always better, i.e. if we had Joe Johnson we'd win a championship. Didn't Joe Johnson play on some lottery teams? What if the Rockets would have picked Drexler instead of Rodney McCray? Well, then we wouldn't have gotten Olajuwon the next year and maybe we never would have won a championship. As for the numbers McGrady's career regular season and especially playoff numbers are real and are the reason to have hope that he will help make the team better. All Rockets fans should be hoping for a speedy and more importantly successful recovery for McGrady.
^ that's the 2nd criticism that i laugh at. tracy gets himself microfracture surgery to avoid getting traded. yes, he's basically risking his entire NBA career, a potential new contract next year if he plays well, for risk of getting traded. when he knows microfracture could end his entire career, risking MILLIONS. don't worry smooth operator, they actually BELIEVE that theory. it's not conjecture to them. it's FACT.
Do you have a count of how many doctors recommended against microfracture? I don't recall any recommending against it. Of course, if you can get him back without it, you do the least invasive surgery. That's what he and the doctors decided. It didn't work. They talked about microfracture from the beginning. Since it's impossible to know the outcome until you make a choice, they chose the lesser surgery. It didn't work out. Without the benefit of hindsight, it's probably the right call. Since we know now it didn't work, it gets questioned. I see nothing that shows we shouldn't support McGrady as a Rocket for what he's done and is trying to do again for the franchise. He was trying to do the right thing.
It was routine arthroscopic surgery that's common amongst athletes. The fact that he came into the season injured indicates he didn't rehab properly. The Cuttino Mobley trade went through. Keep in mind that the Nets wouldn't have made the trade with the intention of winning a title. They would've made it for cap relief. McGrady's motive? He doesn't want to be part of the rebuilding progress that would've been New Jersey. I believe that a part of him does want to win, and Houston has a much better chance of winning than NJ.
I might be mistaken, but wasn't it the 5th doctor that recommended microfracture surgery? Wouldn't that imply that the other 4 doctors recommended against it? If McGrady truly followed the prescribed rehab, why did he see so many doctors before one of them would recommend microfracture surgery? Assuming you're right, wouldn't the first doctor have recommended microfracture surgery after seeing that the prescribed rehab was ineffective? Common sense, right? But that's not what happened. There were posters questioning it earlier in the season. Around the time when he gave himself a few weeks off and chose not to play the second night of back to backs.
Risking his entire NBA career? Exactly how many seasons do you think he has left? And also, its more logical that he would intentionally get the surgery b/c it gives him the best chance of playing well next year (contract year).
Thats the most idiotic logic I have ever heard. It is common knowledge he came back early to fill the void on the wings because Wafer was an unknown and Battier was out.
uhhh... wasn't he just on all-nba 3rd team LAST YEAR? how would getting the surgery give him the best chance of playing well next year? microfracture surgery has ended the careers of many players, allan houston, jamal mashburn, jonathan bender... really?
1) microfracture surgery was on the tablet from the start. they chose arthroscopic b/c like i said, microfracture is VERY VERY risky and you never know the results. it's always best to probably choose the least invasive method and they chose that. and it didn't fix his knee. 2) b/c again, microfracture surgery has been proven to end careers. the rockets have invested $23 million in this guy. 3) also, if you are in the medical field, just b/c 4 other doctors don't suggest microfracture, you just find a damn doctor to agree with you to do the damn surgery. if that is how medicine works, then ******* it's a terrible profession to be in. obviously, microfracture was on the table. the 5th doctor, the one who performed the surgery on him, agreed with the microfracture surgery--not a coincidence he's one of the best at it.
