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Tracy McGrady: Just The Numbers...

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Clutch, May 18, 2009.

  1. krocket

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    I understand what you are saying, but Affording and what the BOSS is willing to pay are two different things. How much would you pay to see Kobe, Dwade or Lebron in a Rockets uni?
     
  2. Jeff Who

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    So when you like T-Mac that means you know nothing about basketball/Rockets right?
     
  3. AntiSonic

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    Not necessarily, but it's a pretty safe bet.
     
  4. Jeff Who

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    That's interesting...hahahaha :rolleyes:
     
  5. AntiSonic

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    What's really interesting is your selective indignation. Where were you the last 2-3 years when anyone who dared to criticize McGrady was greeted with the same (if not worse) kind of personal attacks and generalizations as the ones you attempted to ascribe to wekko?

    It's funny now that the shoe is on the other foot and all of Tracy's apologists, are trying to play the martyr card.
     
  6. larsv8

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    Well thats probably because McGrady's play hasn't really been an issue until this year. In the past 2-3 years it has always been a ****house supporting cast.
     
  7. SmoothOperator

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    The same folks who talk about character would most likely trade T-mac for Kobe in a heartbeat. Talk about hypocrites. Kobe is a worse teammate in everyway.

    The only difference is that he's a better player, so alleged rape, "Who's Andrew Bynum?", forcing the Shaq trade, etc. would mean nothing.

    I'm a lifelong fan who wishes McGrady well with the Rockets or without. I hope if he does go, he comes back with a vengeance and borrows a little "tell me how my ass tastes" a la Shaq for all the haters.
     
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    Happy 30th Birthday T-mac. Older and crappier.
     
  9. Francis3422

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    WHY bring Tracy back!?

    The evidence is all over this board.

    Kudos to Clutch for his numerical break down of what we saw for the last 3-4 months. Guess I am stunned about the number of people on this board that continue to pine for Tmac to come back. Believing he will be better than Kobe, that he will revert back to his Orlando form.

    Is that such a good thing?

    Numerical evidence aside, We are a band of brothers and he is a sister. Tmac could not exist on a team with this sort of chemistry and commaraderie, because his game does not breed or support that. He is a good passer and has great vision, which comes from him dominating the ball and passing out of these situations.


    Tracy was toxic in Orlando, at the height of his ability. Kobe Bryant happens to be a talented guy, and so was MJ, and Dream. They were as talented or maybe less than Tracy. But will and resolve put them over the top. Made them tough, made them determined. Its not here, it is not here with Tracy. You can hope he physically recovers. Maybe he will be ROBOCOP and better than before. But to assume he will develop will and resolve to prove the naysayers wrong is a fallacy. He has had naysayers since midway through his Orlando days...

    What has he done to prove them wrong?

    To cite revenge as motivation is weak, and by doing this, Tracy admits he did not have it before. The people that still want him here are blind to the non-physical realities of this situation.
    22 games in a row is the highlight of his career and always will be. That is impressive, but now, this is a new team with different aspirations. That actually matter. Not to say 22 in a row is not impressive, but I will take 2nd round.

    Playing NBA live 09 has seriously warped some minds around here. He is not a 93, he is a 78 if that.

    IF we bring him back, and the going gets tough, will his motivation (revenge to his critics) be enough to push him and us over the top?

    Was it enough against Dallas when he first got here? Or enough against Utah, or enough to lead us to the playoffs when we were pathetic the year Yao was hurt?

    He has never shown the ability to respond, to anything, and he won't.
     
  10. AB423

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    maybe he'll turn back into 2007-08 form?
     
  11. Mr. Space City

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    when has anybody aid he was gonna be better than kobe?

    and 78?!?!?! he's about an 89 when healthy
     
  12. Obito

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    LOL. What a joke.

    That 78 statement tells it all.

    That's saying Kenyon Martin is better than him when healthy.
     
  13. Mr. Space City

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    78 is deshawn stevenson territory
     
  14. Francis3422

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    while it maybe emphatic (78) The fact that he was a 93 is as big of a joke, as is that whole scoring system. IE Brooks starting year out at 67, Lowry is a 64.

    07-08 form while a passable star, does not help THIS team.

    Someone give a constructive reason as to why bring him back, what will change?
     
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    Wow another original TMAC hate thread!
     
  16. Sweet Lou 4 2

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    why bring him back? Because we are paying him?
     
  17. gotsis

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    while he was hurt......... why start another t-mac thread when you could put your video game analogy in one of the other 100 t-mac threads?
     
  18. tcadriel

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    Kudos to you Francis3422. It's great to see others that looks past his highlights. He's gifted and talented but is not one of the guys that'll take you over the top.
     
  19. Sweet Lou 4 2

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    You guys kick a guy when he's down. The man is injured and had a terrible year. and people go from supporting him to blasting him.

    i can't wait to see what a healthy t-mac can do with this great team.
     
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    I think you're exaggerating when you say some believe he can come back and be better than Kobe or revert to his Orlando days. No one in the right mind believes that, but he very well could come back a mid to upper 80s NBA2k9 type player. As people have pointed out multiple times, the surgery was on a non weight-bearing portion of the knee. The biggest issue I see is how much weight he puts on from an almost complete lack of cardiovascular exercise.

    Your point about lack of chemistry with T-Mac is ridiculous, too. How soon people forget about the 22 game winning streak. Even though his numbers during the streak weren't McGrady like, that streak never happens without him being on the floor.
     

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