Incorrect. A team has the right to require a physical with every trade if they so choose. This option is in place to protect a team from acquiring an injured player and prevents the other team from fibbing about the health in order to facilitate a trade. However, teams are not required to order the physical, and even if they do, they get to decide what to do based on the results. Any team who trades for Tracy is doing it solely for the expiring contract.
So a team uses cap space for guy that won't be ready till after all star break . the Rockets are better off keeping him and letting his contract expire.Plus the nba said they were going to be tighter on those situations after the Gasol trade.
Everyone wants him. I mean come on. Who wouldn't want a 24.5 mil dollar expiring contract. They only have to deal for him for one season then they get the money from his contract.
Look at this chart Clutch provided. It is not about TMac's shooting efficiency. It is about the whole team. The point of the OP is that we are less efficient as a TEAM with TMac than without TMac. Let me translate this chart Clutch provided into points per shot. I think points per shot is probably a better indicator of offensive efficiency than just fg% and 3fg% because it also accounts for foul shots per possession. Here is the numbers: 04-05 1.17 05-06 1.18 06-07 1.15 07-08 1.12 08-09 w/ TMac 1.20 08-09 w/o TMac 1.18 Final 30 1.16 I was surprised to see that the HIGHEST efficiency according to this method is this season with hobbled TMac. The worst was during 07-08 (Adelman's first year, and we played without Yao for a big part of the season). These numbers seem to show that the team offense does not get more efficient without TMac. Now of course there are other factors other than TMac that affect efficiency. Perhaps we simply had better offensive players this season. Perhaps Yao being finally healthy of much of the regular season helped. TMac is not an efficient shooter. But does he make his teammates more efficient (by commanding double teams and/or making good passes)? I think it is still inconclusive whether TMac has a positive or negative impact to offensive efficiency.
Easy, you got the numbers wrong. The points you used are opponents', not Rockets'. Here're the correct ones, with opponents pps also listed for comparison: Code: Season Rox_pps Opp_pps 04-05 1.22 1.17 05-06 1.20 1.18 06-07 1.23 1.15 07-08 1.18 1.12 08-09 1.22 1.20 08-09* 1.25 1.18 Last 30 1.25 1.16 Now draw your conclusions.
Wouldn't it be a more accurate analysis to do a with/without T-Mac per season? This takes into account the current squad for that season. How they do with him on the floor vs. without. I mean it's still useful to look across seasons/squads. I just think it can be misleading if the point is to see how the teams he was on played with and without him. You have to try and at least keep things as constant as possible when doing comparisons. I mean, if you are trying to analyze his effectiveness or ineffectiveness out of the statistics.
We are not that interested in McGrady's performances in past seasons beyond the 07-08 for good reasons. The head coach has changed, the offensive scheme of this team has changed, last but not the least, the rosters have changed. Maybe I should also add McGrady himself has not been quite the same.
This season, Tmac obviously wan't himslef, that open layup blocked by rim would never have happened if he's healthy. Previous seasons, you have to consider other things: 1.Rockets never had as good supporting players as this season. 2.Yao hasn't played that many games like this season. Yao's efficient at scoring and has a big impact on defensive end. 3. Both Yao and Scola had career highs in shooting. In Yao's case, he didn't get better position than before, but his hook shots accuracy improved a lot. In scola's case, his open jumper accuracy improved a lot. So is Landry's. 4. Do we have team stats showing when both Tmac and Yao on the floor? That would be more meaningful since Yao basiclly played entire season this year, and he's the most efficient scorer among starters.
That makes sense to me. 82games shows offensive efficiency with the player on the court and off the court. Just from that: Code: On Off Diff 06/07 110 102.8 +7.2 07/08 109 106.1 +2.9 08/09 108.3 110.1 -1.8 Part of the story is Tracy's decline, but just as relevant is the other players on the team have gotten better collectively. For that reason, I don't think we can draw conclusions just by looking at overall efficiency of the team this season without McGrady compared to efficiency overall in past years with him. Here's the differences in games McGrady played in versus games he didn't play in over the last 3 seasons: with_TMAC without_TMAC DIFF GP OFF DEF GP OFF DEF OFF DEF 06/07 71 108.1 100.2 11 101.3 102.9 +7.8 -2.7 07/08 66 107.4 101.6 16 106.3 102.1 +1.1 -0.5 08/09 35 106.9 105.2 47 110.3 103.8 -3.4 +1.4
I think you have to judge a healthy T-mac, not the injured one. Naturally an injured t-mac hurt the team...let's try to keep that in mind. The t-mac we had this year was not t-mac. The guy played hurt, and had he not even tried no one would be bashing him. He's getting bashed for playing hurt. A healthy t-mac adds a lot to this team, just looked at how he played last year and how key he was without yao in the line-up.
I don't think its just McGrady. Anyone who is injured is going to hurt a team. Someone who is hurt but is fighting to play may hurt the team apposed to someone who is healthy.
This tells more about the story. Still, The most telling story should be difference between with both Tmac/Yao and without tmac but with Yao.
Well, I thought that's the point of the whole thread. I mean looking at the numbers. A discussion about the team being better with or without McGrady. You don't need to look at numbers for this year to know they were better without him. The qualifier, of course, being that he was hurt when he did play. As durvasa posted for us, you can see that offensively in the past, we the team was more offensively effective with him on the court versus off the court. No surprise is that the defensive effectiveness also was down when he was on vs. off. This is just from the last 3 seasons. I'll have to go look for myself since he's been a Rocket. I'm curious although I'm sure it holds true to what my inclination is.
Unfortunately, there hasn't been much of both TMac and Yao, and my recollection of when TMac was out and Yao was still playing is we didn't do so well. Minus this season of course. It really shows, to me, that Yao has really matured into a good/great player.
The 2008-2009 Rockets is probably the best Rocket team assembled out of all those years. In the beginning there weren't playing so hot but that wasn't because of Mcgrady but more because the team was still getting used to teach other with all the additions. In fact, the Rockets always season out bad, and this past year isn't any different. In 2004-2005 the Rocks were horrible in the first half of the season before we got Barry, Wesley, and James--players who could actually shoot wide open shots. The overall team FG% for the year suffered from that bad start. 2005-2006 shouldn't really count since Yao and Tmac were both out most of the year. Tmac only played half a season. 2006-2007 Another bad start for the season. Also Yao is injured for most of the season, losing the only post presence we had. A post presence helps free up shooters better. 2007-2008 Completely new team, another bad start. And then Yao suffers a season ending injury. That 2008-2009 stat w/o Tmac shows that the team shot a better FG%, yes, but that was towards the end of the season when the team started jelling. Not b/c it didnt have Tmac. Every year the team has a bad start and every year they improve towards the end of the year WITH Tracy. I'm not saying that Tracy makes the team that much better but he doesn't make them worse. I think the team improves somewhat with his addition by eliminating certain weaknesses we saw in the playoffs, like a playmaker, a guy a who can eliminate the fronting of Yao, etc. little things like that.
Yao's biggest change over last couple years is his defense. Stats won't show that, but it impacts winning and losing. Role players are also getting much better these couple years.
