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Tracy McGrady: Just The Numbers...

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Clutch, May 18, 2009.

  1. AntiSonic

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    Do you realize how unlikely that is, given that there are seven teams spread across three franchises and he is the only link? And as soon as he goes down his team advances without him?
     
  2. jVgOwnsYou

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    I dont look at it that way. I look at it from a case to case basis. His teams have only been favored to win once in the first round. That series against utah in 06-07. In that series he averaged 25 PPG and 7 assits. Our starting PG who played 44 minutes a game in that serires. 44 minutes a game! Alston shot 33 percent and averaged less than 11 PPG. Our starting PF Hayes played 28 minutes a game and averaged less than 4 PPG. Luther head our sixth man off the bench shot 30 percent and averaged less than 5 PPG. Continue to blame mcgrady. please.
     
  3. AntiSonic

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    Talk all you want about only being favored once and poor shooting teammates, the guy has flat out failed to deliver... every year!

    Blew 3-1 lead on Detroit.
    Blew 2-0 lead on Dallas.
    Blew homecourt vs Utah.

    Continue to make excuses for him. Spin it anyway you want. Bottom line is the Rockets are better without him.
     
  4. jVgOwnsYou

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    This year, yeh....because he was playing injured....But if you look at his career as a rocket you will see that the team simply couldnt win a game without him. the record is atrocious.
     
  5. flamingdts

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    In a close game in the fourth. Adelman's offense will not work. We cannot expect our players to be making a series of quick passes, because in a close game the defensive intensity is a different story. We also cannot rely on Yao because we've seen how easy it is opposing teams will shut down Yao.

    A coach will always rely on a player in a close game, and attempt to create plays for that one player. This is where McGrady comes in. The only problem I have with him is when he hogs the ball and creates plays for others. It isn't entirely a bad thing since it often works (as shown during our 22 game win streak), but it isn't entirely RA's offense and we'll eventually breakdown. However, during a close game, I will not object against McGrady hogging the ball and creating the plays, but that is about it.
     
  6. Rocket River

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    or 2004
    or 2006
    0r any other team Tracy been on
    blah blah blah

    Same ole Tracy Apologist regurgitation
    It is NEVER Traci . . .it is always his inferior teammates

    Rocket River
     
  7. Rocket River

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    but but but but . . . i thought Traci made others better
    no .. . wait
    he 'gets his playoff points' but not make the TEAM better
    that is why THE TEAM did better without him

    Rocket River
     
  8. Rocket River

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    TOFs will never understand. . it is about MORE THAN . . HE GOT HIS POINTS!! STATS!!

    He simply did not MAKE the TEAM better to win!

    Rocket River
     
  9. Rocket River

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    what were they suppose to do . . . wave off TMAC???
    You see how that worked out for Mike James the next year

    Rocket River
     
  10. rockets88MT

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    i see your point, but who would you rather have around you if your Tracy Mcgrady?

    07-08 08-09
    1)Yao Ming (for half a season) 1)Yao Ming
    2)Shane Battier 2) ron artest
    3) (rookie) Aaron Brooks 3) shane battier (half a season injured)
    4) Steve Francis 4) aaron brooks
    5)Chuckwagon 5) chuckwagon
    6)Luther head 6)Carl Landry
    7)bobby jackson 7)Lowry/alston
    8)(rookie) carl landry 8)a wayyy better scola
    9) deke 9)von wafer
    10)steve novak 10)brent barry
    11)luis scola (rookie season) 11)joey dorsey

    the rockets improved their list and i would have like to see what a healthy Mcgrady could have done :confused:
     
  11. rockets88MT

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    LOL soz post came out so bad.. there was meant to be a gap between names :eek:
     
  12. Rocket River

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    What would a HEALTHY Steve Francis had done with an improved line up????

    Rocket River
    you deal with the cards u dealt . . .
     
  13. realcyberbob

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    Not picking sides, could it also be that McGrady has to create more shots because of the people around him, therefore lowering his percentages?
     
  14. IamKhan

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    Can you guys give TMac a break???

    If he had played with Shaq, TD, KG ....

    he would have 4+4+1 = 9 rings. 9 Rings! He would be better than Wade, Kobe, even MJ!
     
  15. MayoRocket

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    Well, this thread has certainly gone down the crapper. Too bad.
     
  16. DaDakota

    DaDakota Balance wins
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    It is tough to legitimatly discuss anything that might be perceived as negative about Tmac or Yao.

    DD
     
  17. rn_xw

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    Tmac is who he is, he is a mentally weak player who would quit during hard times. He had his moments in the Detroit series as well as in Dallas. I think it's time for fans to move on.
     
  18. EssTooKayTD

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    It's certainly funny how pretty much every real NBA player has said, it's stupid to say the Rockets are better without McGrady, and some fans here are more accurate in saying this team is better without an injured McGrady. These statements seem like stating the obvious to me, yet the attitude of many around here is like a woman scorned. That this team is better without him period, and it's just silly to say that. Quote your statistics from this season. But put together the stats of the team's performance from all his years here. Let me see them side by side. With McGrady and without.

    How soon we forget how terrible this team looked when he went to the bench to rest or was out for whatever reason. He's not an iron man that will give you 82+ games a year. Most people have already considered that just wishful thinking.

    No one can tell you how this will play out from here on out. But as a body of work in a Rockets uni, this team won more, and played better when he suited up and played. They were pretty darn bad for the most part without him. To me, that qualifies as this team was better with him, than without.

    Same could be said of Yao. Although that discussion doesn't seem to happen nearly as much.
     
  19. Dave_78

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    Rockets: 0-3 trying to get out of the first round with McGrady
    Rockets: 1-0 without McGrady getting out of the first round and dangerously close to a WCF appearance.
     
  20. ItsMyFault

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    What a terrible example... Utah and Dallas were better teams than Portland. Portland was a young team with inexperience and a young coach. :rolleyes:

    If Tracy would have played with the same intesity as he did in those 3 other series', we would have beat Portland in 5... definitely 6.
     

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