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Tracy McGrady: Just The Numbers...

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Clutch, May 18, 2009.

  1. Artesticles

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  2. AntiSonic

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    ORLY?

    I gave you a 2005 Twacy, with Yao, and lo and behold... 40 point blowout.

    You got served.
     
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    LOL talk about self ownage. What part of "THIS TEAM" did you not comprehend? Clearly THIS TEAM has a lot more talent surrounding T-Mac than the 04-05 team, even without Yao.
     
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    Dude, what part of Tracy's game do you not understand? Put him on the 96 Bulls and he'd find a way to **** it up. The guy has never done what it took anywhere.
     
  5. jVgOwnsYou

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    i dont understand people with this point of view. Mcgrady has ridiculous numbers in playoff games. Its his teams that lost the game. Not him individually.

    This year is a perfect example. We finally fielded a deep, solid team and we advanced past the first round. It wasnt any one individual player that won that series. It was the team. Someone new stepped up every night. In years past we havent had enough good players to get past the first round. It wasn't mcgradys fault.
     
  6. ItsMyFault

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    Ah... the hate continues for Tracy on this board.

    People won't get it... they'll continue to hate. There will always be something that is HIS FAULT. Everything is his fault...
     
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    People just need a scapegoat. Of everyone they choose mcgrady: The team's best player for the last 5 years or so. What about the fact we had to start chuck hayes and bring juwon off the bench at the four. STromile swift. rafer alston, luther head, ryan bowen, mike james, yao mings injuries.....the list goes on and on.
     
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    It's ignorance... I think one thing that throws people off is the fact that other teams have star players that have gotten out of the first round and those players get the credit for helping their team get out of the first round. People don't see the shadow behind the player... the rest of the players.. the TEAM, those teams that we had included some mediocre players. Look at this team, you always get a contribution from someone, usually multiple guys... those past teams, you would HOPE one person showed up, and that still may not have been enough, our stars would have to carry us. People just fail to see some of these things for some reason...
     
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    I always bring up chris paul and dwayne wade. Look at what happened to them this year. these two guys are easily top 5 players in the league, but they couldnt get their team out of the first round yet people would never blame them for the teams lack of success.

    i know wade has a ring but he also played with a healthy shaq.
     
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    0-7

    As soon as the Rockets escape his shadow, they get past the first round and almost upset the conference champs.

    At some point you have to concede that they can't all be blamed on his teammates.
     
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    Those are both horrible examples. Neither have consistently failed to deliver let alone failed as many times as T-Slack has.

    You simply cannot hold up a series or two against seven. SEVEN!
     
  12. jVgOwnsYou

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    Have you smoked so much pot that you can't remember what kind of player a healthy mcgrady is?

    Sure, he was horrible this year by his standards, but he was playing through an injury. If he can just get back to the level he was playing at in 07-08 he will bring another dimension to our offense.
     
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    Sure T-mac has great playoff numbers, however don't let the high points fool you. The more scoring he does, the more shots he takes away from his teammates. I just think that he disrupts the flow of our offense even thoug he has great numbers. He is a great individual talent don't get me wrong, but not a good teammate. He has obviously shown he cant take his team to the next step and I dont think he will ever. For the sake of the rockets...I hope he proves me wrong next season.......
     
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    I'll never forget the incessant heat checks or his refusal to attack the basket.

    He can do whatever he wants on his next team. Maybe even start!
     
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    He hasnt failed to deliver. He always played extremely well in the playoffs every time he has gotten there. Its the team that lose the series.
     
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    mcgrady's efficiency vs. his high scoring in the playoffs is a legit point. while i don't think he'd shoulder all the blames for his team's playoff failures, he sure had a large part to do with them.
     
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    Just because HE plays well doesn't mean S***. I'm pretty sure basketball is a TEAM sport and if you have a ball stopper like t-mac on your team the whole offense is out of rythem. He obviously has great numbers in the playoffs but that doesn't mean crap when he cant take his team past the 1st round.
     
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    Have you not seen his assist totals in the playoffs too? As a member of the rockets, he averages 7 assists per game in the playoffs. Taking shots away from his team mates? who the hell else is going to shoot? rafer alston? chuck hayes? Shane Battier? Thats who we were running out there with mcgrady. He and Yao were the only consistant scorers and he still managed 7 assists per game in the playoffs.
     
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    Funny how you only hold mcgrady accountable and you give a pass to every other member of those teams he was a part of, then u call the game a team sport....terrible logic.
     
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    I'm pretty sure I just witnessed this years playoffs and without T-mac, EVERYONE contributed to our offense, even chuck hayes with easy looks at the basket. WHY???!!.... because the team actually ran the offense that Rick Adelman preaches.
     

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