Tracy McGrady is a softee

Tmac is not a softie

how can someone who yells everytime he goes to the rack be a softie??

 

i can't see what mac is expected to do when he is triple-teamed tightly. yao is the one that seemed soft to me in this game. he was blocked too often and he looked nervous from the beginning minutes onward.

 

I think Zboy is right. Van Gundy belongs to the kind of people: they work hard, they drive others hard, they hardly say anything good about people, and they hardly venture into the unknown. You cann't say they are not good, 'cause they always stay somewhere near the top. But you cann't they are very good, 'cause they are the perpetual legitimate runners-up. They just don't have that tint of genius, that flair of ingenuity which can propel them to the top. Knida of a great pity seeing he stands in such a sharp contrast with Phil.

 

Very true.

A good manager, but a poor leader in other words.

 

McGrady, and Yao, didn't quick driving to the basket or shooting in the 4th. He got a lot of the same shots as earlier in the game and just missed them instead of hit them. It happens to every player.

TMac is no more soft tonight than Shaq and Wade was when they played against the Rockets and had bad shooting nights.

 

man t-mac aint soft. The whole team just collapsed like they do alot. Anyway its good they lost or else you would be D***riding too much. Let the players and coaching staff learn from this and be ready at the end of the season to kill it in the playoffs.

 

So you are suggesting Yao HAS to put up monster #s night in and out for Rox to win? Yao was off obviously, but his numbers were still ok. The real problem was that JVG played starters too much, they ran out of gas and was unable to defend effectively.

 

Ja`````i think he has a psychology problem since the first game of this season ,if he can't overcome it ,he will still be the man can't lead his team to the win ,say nothing of a championship to houston ......

 

Zboy, have to agree. I always hate it when Tmac and Yao are off on the jumpers and continue to brick one after one. Alston and Battier are soft guys too.
To be a real contender, this team needs Yao to be more aggressive, come on, just dunk the ball man. So far Yao only has good games when his turn around jumpers are falling. I'd say we need some more tough loss to grind the duo's mental toughness.
On the other side, we do have two guys that have this tenacity: Hayes and Bill, unfortunately one is out and the other is a JVG forbidden. When these two are able to play, they will offer great help when the team is under the pressure.
As for JVG vs PJ, PJ makes every rookie looks like a veteran, that is sth JVG can never achieve.

 

Less than 33% is not OK as you suggest. Especially from our Center who is 5-10 feet from the basket on most of his shots. Yao had a very bad off night there is no doubt about it. We still could have won but don't kid yourself into thinking Yao played OK. If Rafer shoots 33% people would be calling for his head, hell even if he shoots 40% and he is our POINT guard. He played Luther a lot and he didn't play very well at all. The only player I think JVG should have played more is Kirk Snyder, he didn't even shoot the whole game. I would like us to utilize Snyder a little more than we have been because Luther has been making some mistakes. I would like to see Luther, Snyder, and TMac play at the same time when Yao is out. I think that is a very athletic, quick lineup. And a really good defensive squad.

 

Agree!!

 

Seriously, people, if deepdown you think Tmac and Yao are softees, why would you follow this darn team?

That being said, I do understand the bad feeling that a loyal fan would have towards his team after such a disgusting lost. But, come on, real fans stand behind their teams when they are in difficulties and pumps them up instead of giving them up. Well, may be this is the way you want to pump up our stars huh?

Nevertheless, after calming down from the match, I really think they were just beaten by a better team. The opponent are more matured, more patient and has more depth developed over years of hard work. I just hope the fan base could realize that and contributing by giving more constructive suggestions rather than brutally attack the character and personality of our players.

Give them half a year or more to get the starting line-up stablized and put the promising rookies in the equation more after that. Then we can see a deeper team which can sustain surges from the best teams. It's more about this kind of hard work and patience to have a tough team i guess, rather than this soft / hard thing. I think brutality is a bit dull.

 

I agree Yao's performance was very very poor, what I said was his score was ok, you can not win a game only if Yao puts up 35/10. Anyway, what I am trying to say is, if Yao had an off night, somebody else needs to step up. Tmac did that in the first half, but in the second, nobody was able to and JVG never had a solution----so the key is, if Yao is off, we simply don't have an answer. Shooting percentage wise, Yao struggled from the very first second, and his FT was approaching Shaq... However, I still think the most important thing is find the answer, not to pray that Yao gets his way back, as we all know, he is one of the most stable player on our team.

 

why cant we just say we went up against a very good team...

both our stars didnt shoot well...

and JVG didnt use his bench wise at all...

all I got to say... is... if we want to go far in the playoffs... JVG has got to start using the bench more...


how can we expect our role players or bench to keep us in a playoff game or make the clutch play... if we don't even play them in the regular season...

 

I think there is truth to this.

Tmac does not go to the hole and force contact like Wade, Lebron, AI, and Kobe etc when it is getting tough to score. Maybe it is his health, maybe it is his personality.

Look at it this way, since 03-04 Tmac hasn't averaged over 8 FTs a game. Wade, Lebron and AI have seasons at or near 11FT/game, Kobe has 2 season over 10FTG. (Note Tmac has close at 9.7 FT/G in 02-03 for his 32PPG season--but that was 4 season ago--this would suggest it is a little personality but even more age/health)

Now Tmac isn't as soft as Carter, Allen and Redd. He is sort of in between those guys and Wade/AI/Lebron.

Finally, maybe he is what he is. It is better to have a heathy jump shooting leaning TMac than a broken down weary Tmac or out Tmac. We get Yao to keep learning how to be more aggressive, get Wells heathy/ingrained, and keep working Snyder in the picture, we have lots of other ways to draw fouls.

But we should not expect Tmac to have a playoff run like Wade did, because so much of Wade's run was based on that when everything bogs down versus a good defense you find a way to weather the storm by drawing fouls toward the bucket. TD and Manu (he isn't as good overall as Tmac, but Manu does go to the hole harder and this is why he is so critical to the Spurs when the going gets tough) both do this, though TD's shooting of them is inconsistent. But as we saw last night this is not what Tracy McGrady is now, while we were blowing our lead noone was out their making sure they drew the foul--maybe Bonzi would have really helped us there.

 

I totally agree, what I saw was Yao and TMac being tripled teamed, while Pagett and Battieri refusing to take the open three' they had. The blocks on Yao came on the back side (which were fouls. Coach staying with players that had the deer in the headlight look and stay with players that had not learned how to fight back (this was a time to try V-Span). Howard actually was more effective than Pagett but it is hard for the coach to change at times, unlike Pop.

 

please.... call him a softee all you want, but in that instance TMac did exactly what we needed to win that game. driving to the lane was not gonna bring us back from that one.

 

Yep, he should've won the game all alone. Not only that, JVG should've just let him take the Spurs one on five because the rest of the team was getting in his way.

He should be waived because he can't win a ring by himself.