You know Shaq had a team right? You know Penny Hardaway, Horace Grant, Dennis Scott were there also right. Nick Anderson also. McGrady's performance with his time with Orlando compare to Shaq's time is no brainer better because of the team he played on.
you are pretty late to this thread mr Tmac4Life#1 All the other Tmacs here are making you look like Tmac4Life#24
you are just like tmac himself, making excuses http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2009/writers/ian_thomsen/02/27/weekly.countdown/index.html "I haven't been the guy who's been fortunate enough to play with Shaq, to play with Tim Duncan. I always seem to have average teams,'' he said. "You take me back in my Orlando days with Shaq? Come on, there are no questions. You take a healthy me and switch me out with Paul Pierce [on the current Celtics]? There's no question. There's definitely no question.''
Exactly. He hasn't been fortunate to play with Shaq, Tim Duncan, KG and all. Do you know what that article was about for you to be posting it. You act like he is bashing Yao. Some guys on here put to much into things they read or hear from the media. If he was fortunate enough to play with those guys we wouldn't be having discussions we are having now. The way he played back then add a dominate force like those guys he named and he would be in the hall of fame conversations.
I wish Tmac did get his wish of swapping places with Paul Pierce. Then he and KG could both lose together, then Tmac would "I wish I was fortunate enough to play with Yao Ming"
There is simply no evidence to support that. He has had the best center in the league, homecourt advantage, and substantial series leads and has never stepped up in any of those situations. You can cite his inflated stats and blame his teammates all you want, but the bottom line is that he never did the things it takes to close out a series.
I wasn't aware that 1 person can beat 12 guys . He did have homecourt and a substantial series lead. He also had bias refs that threw games.
Ah, the perennial "he can't do everything obligatory rolleyes" reply. If he's as great and Hall worthy as some of you still maintain, shouldn't he have been able to enforce his awesome magical powers on at least one of those seven series? Further, if he's really in that class, why does he need an equal just to get out of the first round? Those other dudes bring championships.
You act as if he always had the best center in the league (which is debateable depending on the year you are talking about with Shaq and Dwight in the league), homecourt advantage, and substantial series leads in every situation. Why can't all you FATER's conceed that Tracy did have to play with some deficient rosters that were bacsically devoid of talent, including last year without the best center in the game and Rafer's injury. I am not saying he is blameless in the series he has participated in, but it is certainly not all his fault the teams he has been on have not won a series. Last I checked, Yao has been to just as many series without a win either, but that does not mean that Yoa is garbage either. The Oralndo rosters were devoid of talent after Grant Hill went down, yet the anchor is hung around his neck as if he was so special a player that he could single handedly beat the eventual NBA champ on his own, which he almost did. There have also been other mitigating factors, including match-up problems (see the Jazz, who would still pose a similar match-up problem this year), injuries to himself and others, etc. Yes, he has had home court advantage a coupe of times, but last year was without Yao. Regardless of Tracy's stats, which are good, he has consistently put forth his best effort, including playing at an incredible level in the Dallas series a few years ago, not to discount his efforts last year playing with injuries. I just don't get why so many people hate him so much???? I'm not going to defend his stupid comments, cause they are stupid, but come on, he has been an excellent player for many years and to discount his contribution to this team and any others he has played on is a bit extreme. Bottom line is that this is a team game, and to date the teams he has played on have not consistently stepped up their game in the playoffs to get past round 1.
Having "the best center in the league" isn't exactly as meaningful as it used to be. 1995? Yes. 2009? Not so much. The major flaws of the current "best center in the league" were exposed in the 2006-07, and they've already been well-documented, so there's no need to go into that. Homecourt advantage doesn't automatically win you series. Ever heard the phrase "that's why they play the games"? In the 2004-05 series with Dallas, the road team won the first 4 games. Those series leads that we supposedly blew, how do you think we got them in the first place?
Its easy to get a 1st half lead in a game....the toughest part is to close a team out in the 2nd half. Why do you think we have so much trouble with that now and in past seasons? Those games where we are down coming down the stretch and make some sort of effort coming back are far and few in between. Most of our wins are being able to stay ahead down the stretch. Tracys comments pretty much tell everybody that he needs a #1 option and he can be #2 option if they want to advance in the playoffs.
