again what may be "hard shots" to us, they're EASY and makeable to him. i mean look at the shots he made in the 4th, the cavs announceres went like gah gah over the difficulty of it and tmac kept shooting and making them. again, tmac's a talent freak. easy for him, hard for 99% of others, except for kobe
man i think its a losing battle .they do not know how lucky they are to have t-mac on their team.the only way for them to shut up is when the rockets will be in the playoff and t-mac will carry them again and again.then you will see all of those guys praise him and congratulate themselves..they are far from loyal i feel terrible for t-mac because he will give his all for people who bash him like that...again not a bad shot selection but the worst..i'm still shaking my head.i f...... cannot believe that thread
Alright T-Mac may have the worst shot selections in the league, but he is also the best at making those shots, so it all evens out. Crazy how that works huh?
What did Wade do without Shaq? As a rookie, he lead his team into the 2nd round of the playoffs, that's what. On your other post, you miss the point. Tracy's shots are NOT "easy", which is why he shoots a lower percentage than he should. Nobody in the NBA is better at hitting tough shots than Tracy McGrady, but the problem is he takes too many of them. Tracy makes the game much harder for himself and much easier on the defense than necessary. It's great showmanship but it makes him less effective. He doesn't have to attack the basket relentlessly on every possession (though he could more often). How about if he took more 15-20 foot shots instead those pull ups and turnarounds right inside the 3 point line. How many times has it been said that Tracy "can get any shot that he wants?" In his own mind, maybe he sees no difference between a 22 foot shot from the elbow or a 15 footer. If so, I disagree with him. Some have said shooting isn't one of Tracy's strengths and I strongly disagree. He is a very deadly midrange shooter IMO. Roll-Wit-Da-Mac, I think you put it well, though his shot selection isn't the absolute worst.
As much as I hate to say it, Tracy has terrible shot selection. There's no arguing that. The argument that since he's a superstar those shots are easy to him is off base. When he's hot, I can take the "heat checks". However, they are just easier for him then most but they are still difficult shots.
yea, me 2. tmac is the player who can shot any kind of jumps that generally is bad selection for other players. I don't like tmac drive in too much cus I don't want to him get injuried. I also prefer he shoot long 3s than jump midranges. When he is in the court even don't attack we are a different team. Go Rockets
i don't disagree w/ u about tracy taking "tough" shots. but are they tough to HIM? that's the question. we all think it's tough b/c even guys like melo, lebron, wade can't even dream of taking and making shots like hat. so that's why we think it's tough. but is it to him? obviously, as a fan, i think they're ridiculously hard on a difficulty of a 10+. but ive seen tracy make those too many times to question him. and it's ONE GAME. tell me when this happens on a consistent basis then i will criticize him. and PLEASE, in wade's rookie year, he had 3 stars - odom (who was the team's best overall player), jones (team's leading scorer), and butler. wade was a big part but in NO WAY was he the best player on that team nor teams even focused on him. there's a reason the heat are 4-2 w/o wade b/c the return of eddie jones has solidified the perimeter D. tell me when houston can go over .500 w/o tmac. prove to me wade can lead the team where he is the UNQUESTIONABLE main guy. i have not seen him do it. kobe has tried it => same results as tmac. so back to the main point, are these shots hard TO tmac? that's the question.
Apparently you haven't watched Miami in 2004 playoffs since Wade was easily the best Heat player and the only one who actually elevated his game in the playoffs. Eddie Jones played like crap and Odom didn't follow on his regular season performance either. It was a sign of great things to come from Wade since you don't see too often rookie taking over in the playoffs.
uh i'm not denying wade's a great player but please back it up w/ facts. he avg 18ppg in the playoffs that yr. that's great for a ROOKIE but he was never the main guy or the guy the other team focused on in his rookie yr. but i find that "elevating" his game when he averaged 17 points during the reg. season in his rokie year. that yr, odom avg 17ppg, 8 boards in the playoffs. that's bad? he avg 17 and 10 in the reg. season jones did kind of struggled as his scoring went from 18 down to 13.5. but still, like i said, wade was hardly a one man show in his rookie year. but b/c he won last yr, that's the impression people think of him. but REALLY, what has he done by himself?
Yes they are hard to him, otherwise he would shoot a better percentage. Tracy would be pushing new limits of greatness (for him) if his shot selection were better. All he has to do is drive a little bit more and move closer in for his jumpshots and turnarounds.
now back to your wade assertions, 18ppg => up 1ppg from reg. season => is that elevating his game to another level? wade's perception around the L is too high.
Dumb thread. He has one off night and all of a sudden has the worst shot selection in the league?? It can obviously use improvement but really no shot for McGrady is a bad shot. He can shoot just about over anyone with that high elevation on his jumper. Generally it would be a tough shot for the average player but for guys like Arenas, Kobe, and McGrady, when they think they are feeling it, they believe they can make anything (which in some nights it true lol). Again I'm not saying what he takes are good shots but that's how T-MAC plays. He takes bad shots but usually hits them and when feeling it always hits and leaves you in amazement. Plus look at Kobe yesterday against the T-Wolves. He shot 13-30 and 3-10 from the 3 pt. line also, I guess he has horrible shot selection too right? Great players have off nights, it happens. Where were these threads when McGrady was dropping 30, 5, 6 almost every game and leading the Rockets to a 20-10 record without Yao? Come on man, I hate this argument, that Wade led his team to the the second round basically by himself. He was the third leading scorer for his team and played 61 games. Then I know you'll say that you are talking about playoffs and not in regular season but once again Wade was not the best player in that first round series. Look at his stats for the first round... Wade- 15.4 ppg (decreased) 5.6 apg 4.0 rpg 1.2 spg 42% while.... Odom-16 ppg, 8 rpg, 4 apg, 1 spg, 1 bpg, 44% Jones-15 ppg, 4 rpg, 2 apg, 1 spg, 1 bpg, 37% Butler-15 ppg, 9 rpg, 2 apg, 2 spg, 0 bpg, 41% Hell even Brian Grant who averaged over 8 points and 9 rebounds When you have that much help, that's hardly saying Wade led his team to the second round. Wade is a great player, I'm not saying he isn't, a Top 5 player in the league no doubt but he didn't lead that team to the second round.
that's the "hyped" perception that the NBA has portrayed about wade. he's a winner. he has done everything. and all that. sure he earned some of the hype when he won last yr but clearly the mavs made shaq a defensive priority over wade and that didn't change until game 5 and 6 in the finals. there's a reason we beat the heat WITHOUT yao convincingly just after the all-star break and the heat were kinda rolling. wade has to prove to me that he can do what he can do team-wise being a clear-cut main guy w/o another all-star b4 i say he can carry a team. the only 3 guys who can carry their team to a .600 record by themselves w/o much help is tmac, kobe, and lebron. those are the 3 best individual players in the NBA. and let's be real, our supporting cast outside of yao is not that great like people have said. battier has seemed to hit a wall as he is poor defensively since the all-star break; head has been vastly inconsistent; deke and howard are expectedly running out of gas but they should be ok now w/ yao and hayes playing again; and rafer is rafer. b/c of tmac's greatness, he has masked a lot of our problems (PG, PF, poor finishers, no one who can create their own shot). there's a reason why even when tmac hasn't even ADVANCED past the first round and coaches are clamoring about his greatness. if he does win, it's a wrap.
Actually, Tracy is the subject and I stand by everything I said about him. Regarding Wade, you had to see him the 2nd half of his rookie year. Stats don't tell the whole story. After the playoffs were over, the hype machine justifiably started cranking. I understand your viewpoint but all I can say is you had to see him. After his rookie year, Wade carried the Heat on his back a lot games when Shaq was out with injuries. This put Wade's reputation up another level. In the NBA forum, there was a nonsensical debate about whether Shaq was the cause of Wade's greatness. Some here actually said Shaq helped raise Wade to another level when he joined the Heat. One poster even argue that Wade's (and the Heat's) continued excellence with Shaq injured was due to a residual effect of Shaq being on the team. Those of us that saw him develop as a rookie blasted the notion. By the end of the playoffs after the Heat lost to the Pistons, that preposterous notion was dead in the water, never to be revived. Wade's rep is not too high. The phenomenon is that so many fans of other teams dislike him refuse to give him enough props. He deserves his props because he plays hard to the bitter end and gets results.
sure he was phenomenal in the 2nd half but was the main reason for their success no? he was great AS A ROOKIE b/c he was mature and humble. and wade's rep is not too high? he can go .500 w/o shaq IN THE EAST and people still praise him even moreso than tracy? cmon and again, i don't disagree w/ your statements about tracy. i do agree they are hard shots but to tracy, i don't think they're hard. he's just that confident. sure u want him to hold back when he's struggling, but he is who he is. AND IT'S ONLY 1 GAME. when he does this in the playoffs or in big games, then sure, u can bash him. but did u hear his reason for why he chucked up 32 shots? yao's not ready so he wants to force the issue since the offense had no rhythm at all in the first half.
and i thought gilbert arenas had the worst shot selection in the league....thanks for correcting me op. just be glad we actually have a player, much less 2 players, that we can say they are in the top 5 in the nba. im sure there are 25 other teams drooling to be in our position right now. reality check buddy as long as kobe doesn't say he takes any bad shots than im comfortable
We can agree to disagree. If I had to choose, I'd take Wade over Tracy, at least until Tracy improves his shot selection, which probably will never happen. Even when Yao plays and plays well, Tracy will not shoot 50% from the field over a long period and he won't stop bailing out defenses. That's just him. Wade is more focused and makes better use of his lesser talent. I'm not "bashing" Tracy because of one game. This has come up before. Even when his shot is on, he will keep taking them, often with increasing difficulty, until he starts missing. It would be better if he played more within his ability, which Wade does much better. Tracy is so talented that he is still a great player with these flaws.
