I'm going to ask 3 co-workers (who i know lean left) if they think he is a saint today... I will report my findings of what liberals think later...
A President or President potential WILL get that treatment like it or not...Think of the overwhelming threads on Bush, or even Clinton. Please.
It's not the same. This is a VY like obsession. And just like VY, his fanboys fans are making me hate the guy.
I like how these two critics are having a conversation amongst themselves about how everyone is always talking about obama ---->
No, not at all. Why would they throw in Mohammed for absolutely no reason. It doesn't further clarify their point. It isn't part of any saying that is common and well known. It doesn't help to illustrate anything. There is no other purpose other than to help perpetuate the myth. If know of another one I'd be willing to listen.
i threw mohammed in, as an ironic rhetorical device. one you and otto were apparently too dense to perceive.
If you have voted Demo for 30 years, what is so bad about Hillary. She is a centrist and her policies won't be any different from her husbands without Monica.
Al Gore and John Kerry were uncharismatic and uninspiring... Barack Obama is too charismatic and too inspiring? Okay, then... Hillary '08.
One of the main reasons why I like Obama has nothing to do with the minimal differences in policies over Hillary. It remains to be seen if he will be too ready to compromise on issues like she has been. Obama has been slimed for 16 less years by the Swiftboaters. After awhile some of the dishonest crap sticks. For instance many on this bbs probably think that Whitewater is proof positive that the Clintons are unusually dirty for politicians. That is not to speak of those who believe that they murdered opponents, ran drugs through the Arkansas Governor's mansion etc. etc. My son at UT tells me that many students are for Obama, are not particularly political, but see him as new. Hopefully this will get them involved or more interested in politics. In general he says the students are apathetic. No problems with health insurance, money problems are seen as temporary and the war is irrelevant as like the kids of the neocons, they will never have to fight.
well, for starters... she is a warmonger and says bush isnt being hawkish enough on iran she will not commit to having the troops out of iraq by the end of her first term (2013!). that is totally unacceptable. she is pro-amnesty/open borders she is pro-gun control she supports the north american union, just like her husband supported nafta she is anti-free speech and has protesters removed from public events she continues to lie about obamas record and her own she says she will garnish our wages for health care she is too tied to corporate america and lobbyists she sat on the board of directors for wal-mart for 6 years and her husbands trade policies ended up directly benefiting them, while hurting the american worker. how is this any different from the last 7 years?
the drugs were ran through mena, not the governors mansion. weapons too. despite repeated requests from his constituents to investigate, the cia agent clinton covered it up. and there is quite a long line of dead bodies that seem to follow the clintons. but its all coincidence, im sure.
I happen to believe you may have been playful with that bit, but... it's in the eye of the beholder, basso. If readers find it crude that you bring up his father's religion, and that you used to continually call him "Balack," well then they are not wrong. They are welcome to their experience of your posts, and they may find it crude, cheap-shot-ish, motivated by building sentiment against the candidate. Maybe just a sad statement of the climate in here. If I continually start reminding people how old McCain is, I would expect that people could get turned off by that. I would not pretend to tell them they were dumb for not getting my ironic jokes. But boy, this does get me thinking... McCain is so old, he may just vote for Hillary! Wow, this could get fun...
Look at the nature of human beings. We have always deified hope. There is no rational reasoning behind any religion, yet almost every civilization that has ever existed has adopted some type of superior being/immortality story; and to the point of defending it with mass violence. Even philosophies tend to deify their philosophers to lend credence to their beliefs. So adopting Obama as a messiah is a perfectly predictable phenomenon for those disillusioned with the status quo. Happy, smiling, eloquently expressed hope is the perfect antidote to the fear mongering of the Bush/Cheney regime. So, if you go to church to hear that you will live forever in heaven, don't come in here saying people are being duped by Obama. Intangible hope for a better tomorrow is what gets humans out of bed. ///typing from bed
Perhaps you should read a treatise on irony and rhetoric. It is not ironic – there is no opposed juxtaposition between what is perceived and what is written. It is definitely sarcastic, as it mocks the traditional ironic tool (which you used) of referring to someone ‘Jesus’ when they are revered excessively. Inclusion of Mohammed was sarcastic in that it tries overlay a cultural framework which has been used to attempt to tarnish Mr. Obama on top the traditional 'Jesus' irony framework. And since sarcasm is an aggressive and disdainful – it comes from a Greek word signifying ‘a sneer, jest, taunt, mockery’ according to the online etymology dictionary, you were doing exactly what I said. I think I understand perfectly well what it is – apparently better than you. It is definitely not an ironic statement. It does indicate something somewhere between distain and malice. The only function that the sarcastic inclusion of Mohammed serves is to reference the attempt to soil his image among Christian voters. It is a jab.
