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Tower defense II (do not look if you don't want your productivity to go to ****)

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout' started by newplayer, Apr 16, 2007.

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  1. fadeaway

    fadeaway Member

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    I disagree with some of your rules. They are okay if you don't mind losing some lives, but my goal is always to kill 100% of the creeps. It's a failed game if I don't accomplish that:

    3) Never build anything other than pellet towers anywhere else..

    Freeze towers are your friend. They are very cheap and extremely effective. 3 well-placed Blizzard towers can have a huge effect. I find them particularly helpful against the giant level 49 flying bosses, which have always caused me the most grief.

    1) Always build the squirt towers in the dead center, on the 5x5 squares in the middle of the screen (on or next to the crosshairs). This takes care of all the flyers... They are actually the easiest to kill.

    It is very difficult to kill the level 49 flying bosses without at least two Swarm towers, of which at least one should be fully upgraded. For optimum positioning, they should be placed in the middle of the crosshairs.

    In fact, never build any towers unless you absolutely have to... The ultimate solutions are actually supremely elegant and simple.

    I don't agree with this either. I think a long maze is the best way to deal with this game. Specifically, you want a maze that will stagger the entry of the two groups into your main kill area. (I.e. Design it so that the horizontally moving creeps enter immediately and the vertical creeps enter shortly afterwards). This maximizes the firing rate of your cannons.

    I do agree that it is a good idea to have your main kill area in the center of the grid so that your Squirts have access to the flyers, and that it is best to upgrade one Squirt cannon at a time instead of a whole bunch at once.

    Some more of my ideas:

    - Bash towers are completely useless. I absolutely hate bash towers. They are expensive, slow, have limited range, don't reach flyers and are just not very effective in general. Freeze towers are much better.

    - I hate diagonal mazes. They allow too many of the Spawn creeps to leak through.

    - Dart towers are nice, but they are a luxury you should only consider once you already have a well established kill zone of Squirts.
     
  2. getready

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    oh gosh after trying like 20 times i finally finished hard with more than 10 lives :mad: :mad:

    I'm clutchfans ...... heh
     
  3. Rasselas

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    Am I the only one that finds the beginning of the Hard level more challenging than the end?

    In the early level, I'm always losing lives to those damn Spawns. Once I get the first Tyhpoon, around level 20, usually, the game gets much easier, and then I only lose a couple of lives the rest of the way.

    btw.. last night I cancelled plans with friends to play this game. I haven't shaved. Haven't showered. I look like Michael Keaton toward the end of Mr. Mom.

    This is flash crack.
     
  4. newplayer

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    should i feel guilty for starting this thread? i did warn you though ... :p
     
  5. Lil

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    Fadeaway is absolutely right.

    I NEVER get to kill the 49 bosses... :( That's the major flaw of this setup.

    I've come up with a couple of new strategies, which I discovered after studying the setups of the high scorers on the site.

    1) Build a "Two-Way" map, offering two vastly different ways to reach the end of the maze, each with a single exit. Seal the first path. Then after funnelling all the creeps into the second path and waiting until they are close to the end, unblock the first path, and seal the exit to the second one. This forces all the creeps to retrace their steps back through the entire maze. I haven't actually designed a map to do this, but I think the strategy should be feasible. Coincidently, this would also allow you to put money into the swarm towers. In my previous setup, I was hard pressed the entire game to buy the 8 Typhoon towers... no way I had the surplus to invest in swarm towers... If you can shuffle the creeps multiple times through your zone of fire, I bet you can get on by with just 4-5 typhoon towers, thereby allowing you to build the swarms.

    2) Sell your unnecessary towers at the end. Esp. the swarm towers, since there are no flying dudes after level 49... Those are worth a good 500 pts each....

    Once again, good luck!
     
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  6. AroundTheWorld

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    I always tried to do this, but my problem is that the new guys come in too fast. In general, I am almost sure that this must be the right idea, though.
     
  7. RocketForever

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    This game is so addictive. I have been playing it for 3 weeks now. :D :D :D
     
  8. Invisible Fan

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    Diagnonal mazes make them change direction more often and increases surface area. When I played i liked to make the openings wider so the initial spawn creeps wouldn't leak through.

    It seems like dart towers were made for diagnonal mazes or tight configurations.
     
  9. RocketForever

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    I can't get pass the hard level 49. What's the secret?
     
  10. Dubious

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    What's that score for level 49?

    I've finally come up with a way to get 4600 points on the hard level.
    Looooong lines of cheap towers early, buy and sell squirt towers here and there through the first couple of swarms and planes, then sell every thing and get one typhoon gun ASAP. Once you get one strategically placed, work on the next one and use any points during the lulls to upgrade Swarm towers.
    You need atleast 4 at the 125 level to get through level 35. And 4 Typhoon guns in the middle area and a 310 Swarm to get those Giant airplanes and immune Big Bosses.

    Frost towers are handy to to increase the effectiveness of your Typhoon guns. Dart towers don't seem to matter much and Bash Towers are usless as far as I can see.

    ( I play way too much)
     
  11. Invisible Fan

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    There's a cheap way where at lvl 48 you skip the level so the spawn boss is sent along lvl 48's wave. If it works out as planned, the spawn boss will escape without exploding into more spawn creeps and you lose less than 5 lives.

    Another cheese way design the level so that there's backdoors to sell for the lvl 49 spawn boss to escape.

    As mentioned, other people use trap doors to make the creeps march back and forward.

    What I did later on was make a freeze tower each at the 2 entry points. Freeze towers have splash and hit flying units. And I put typhoon towers in the middle. Get the most out of your money and make sure each tower hits at least two passes. Also make sure the upgraded typhoon towers hit the flying creeps. I like long loops because it gives the typhoon towers time to hit the other creeps and the center isn't overloaded (less leaks).

    The order to upgrade is also important. Before the second flying wave, you need at least one swarm tower. As mentioned it's better to have one fully upgraded squirt tower than three lvl 4 squirt towers.

    I'm not a good maze creator, so this is how I won.

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    The dart tower is to eliminate bundled creeps...less wasted shots from the squirt tower. I upgraded the pellet towers at the end was because I had little money to spare. If I was a better planner, I'd have third freeze tower around the center of the kill zone. The 3 squirt towers in the middle row had a firing range of four lines. The con to that is if it's overloaded, the creeps that leak through might not get picked off.
     
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  12. BenignDMD

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    ..........and the addiction has started again!

    Version 1.5 came out today. There are 2 new creeps and a new weapon. Sweet!
     
  13. RocketForever

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    Thank you, good strategy. I can finish all the 50 levels every time I play now
     
  14. RocketForever

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    Damn, this new version is going to rule my life in the next 2 weeks. :mad:
     

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