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tornadoes in North Texas

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout' started by Commodore, May 16, 2013.

  1. Aceshigh7

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    What is it that causes you to personally attack those you don't agree with, when they have not attacked you? That really says a lot about you, and it ain't good. You're a sad person.

    My suggestion to you is that you learn to read. You can easily go back and read the reports and warnings that were issued on Sunday.

    Clutch, is this what you want your forum turning into? People who add absolutely nothing to the conversation and just throw insults?
     
  2. Rocketman95

    Rocketman95 Hangout Boy

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    Like calling people who just suffered devastaing losses irresponsible jackasses?
     
  3. Aceshigh7

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    I expressed my anger at the idiotic actions of parents who willingly put their children into danger. That is far different from personally insulting anyone on this board.
     
  4. Rocketman95

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    What is it that causes you to personally attack those you don't agree with, when they have not attacked you? That really says a lot about you, and it ain't good. You're a sad person.
     
  5. updawg

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    ^^^^^*
    This is you.

    You have no idea what you are talking about.
     
  6. ItsMyFault

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    Not willingly. Even if the reports were true, they just underestimated what mother nature is capable of. They didn't willingly want their kids to die or get hurt. People make mistakes or wrong decisions when it comes to mother nature, there no reason to crucify them for it. They already feel bad enough to have lost or almost lost their child because of it. Give some sympathy and less anger.
     
  7. Aceshigh7

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    Your analogy is so flawed and off-base it's almost not even worth commenting on.

    My post was completely accurate. I'd say there's quite a bit of difference between that and taking your kid to school during a severe tornado watch.
     
  8. Aceshigh7

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    See? It's people like this. Absolutely no attempt at meaningful discussion.

    You've got the intelligent people like myself making actual (and valid) points and then you've got people like this saying "You have no idea what you are talking about" or "You're a ****** idiot.".

    That's all you people have got, because you don't actually have any substance.
     
  9. updawg

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    I seriously hope you are trolling otherwise you are either really stupid or r****ded
     
  10. Rocketman95

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    So, it's OK to call people names if you disagree with them. Got it.
     
  11. Aceshigh7

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    It's okay to call people in general responsible for endangering their children names, sure.

    It's not okay to call someone on this board an idiot because you disagree with them and can't come up with an intelligent, reasonable, and substantive reply.
     
  12. underoverup

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    The burden of proof is on you since you brought the subject up. Provide us with some direct evidence that a massive tornado was "expected" in the OKC area. Until you do so your points are about as valid as someone predicting an earthquake.
     
  13. Joshfast

    Joshfast "We're all gonna die" - Billy Sole
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    It's not a disagreement, your original post is so asinine that it only required ridicule for a response. :confused:
     
  14. TheresTheDagger

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    Aceshigh7--You are wrong here. About everything. Let it be.
     
  15. Rocketman95

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    I hope your house is destroyed by a natural disaster so that our name calling towards you is warranted.
     
  16. Aceshigh7

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    I give up. I don't have time to try to conduct an intelligent and civil discourse with those who are unwilling or unable to do so. I've wasted enough time trying to do so already.

    Look, anyone who was paying attention to general media on Sunday should have heard the same things I did. Look up the facts from May 19th in the news reports on the Shawnee tornado. These warnings were not a secret. I saw it on ABC news for god-sake. The fact that a severe tornado was likely on Monday was broadcast a day in advance.

    If you go back to my original post (before people started mindlessly attacking me), all I said was that it was inexplicable that people would take their kids to school when these conditions were known.

    Now, all of you are so wrapped up in the loss these people endured, you are willing to overlook and defend the very irresponsible actions taken by some of them. That's all well and fine. Go right ahead.
     
  17. updawg

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    Aces high- hurricane season starts June 1, you better start packing to evacuate first thing that day. Otherwise you would be an irresponsible jackass
     
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  18. ItsMyFault

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    Do you feel better now? I hope someone insults you after you make a grave mistake. Learn to forgive and sympathize, there's no need to throw anger at grieving parents.

    Please don't act like they knew an incredibly rare F5 tornado was going to hit that school head-on. Nobody knew that. It's easy to underestimate mother nature, people do it all the time. It's a lesson to be learned for sure. I can understand though why they let their kids go, I probably would've done the same thing.

    It's easy to say these things in hindsight too. Put yourself in their shoes, these parents have to work. They can't all be sitting around babysitting kids that are normally at school because one storm is coming. Something rare happened, they wish they hadn't sent their kids, but they aren't irresponsible for it.
     
  19. DBrunk01

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    First of all, there's no such thing as a "severe tornado watch."

    There are severe thunderstorm watches and severe thunderstorm warnings. Likewise, there are tornado watches and tornado warnings.

    Tornado watches are by nature automatically severe thunderstorm warnings since tornados develop as the result of a severe thunderstorms. Tornado WARNINGS are issued when a tornado is in progress.

    Furthermore, this time of year, tornado watches happen damn near all the time in Oklahoma. When I lived there, I was hearing sirens every other day somewhere it seemed like. Nine times out of ten, you don't get hit by a tornado, even if there's a tornado SOMEWHERE. Nobody hunkers down and stops their life for tornado watches and severe thunderstorm warnings. They do it when the warning comes in.

    If parents in Oklahoma kept their kids home every time there was a tornado watch or severe thunderstorm watch/warning in the Spring, their kids would never go to school.

    And finally, did you actually see the houses around the neighborhoods near those schools? Did they look safe to you? Most schools in Oklahoma are cinderblock concrete construction and certainly more sturdy than a woodframe brick home. The problem is, when a 200+ mph EF-5 hits you head on, very little can protect you other than a custom built safe-room or storm shelter specifically built to withstand those winds, and those are very cost-prohibitive.

    The only issue worth discussing is whether or not greater funding should be given to these districts and residents to help build such structures so that the next time this happens, nobody has to die.

    So no, your post wasn't accurate or valid. It was ill-informed, scientifically incorrect, and full of assumption. If you don't know what you're speaking of, just don't speak, dude. You know the old saying. Better to be a fool in silence than to open your mouth, prove it, than desperately try to defend yourself while everybody else keeps telling you what a dumbass you are. I may have paraphrased that.

    For the sake of completeness, here are the watches issued for that part of Oklahoma the day BEFORE (5/19/13) and the day of (5/20/13) the Moore tornado.

    5/19/2013: http://www.spc.noaa.gov/products/watch/ww0182.html

    Above watch included the Oklahoma City metro area, but expired at 11pm central.

    5/20/2013: http://www.spc.noaa.gov/products/watch/ww0191.html

    Above watch was the first tornado watch of the day for the OKC area and was issued at 1:10pm. Apparently, kids start school before 1:10pm. Who knew?

    Finally, a Tornado Warning was called exactly 16 minutes before the Moore tornado struck at around 2:56pm, give or take a few minutes.

    As for conditions being ripe for the formation of a tornado, conditions in Oklahoma this time of year are almost ALWAYS ripe for the formation of a tornado. It's more newsworthy when it's NOT. Also, conditions being ripe for the formation of a tornado don't always result in an EF-5 monster, nor can anyone pinpoint exactly when one might form. What do you suggest? That the entire watch area from the Kansas border down to the Texas border keep their kids home that day??

    Also, in case you didn't know, people on twitter saying "DUDE, I totally bet there's a tornado tomorrow. S**t looks REAL, son." isn't grounds for keeping kids home for school. It's just not. This is the real world, and your hindsight arrogance is a slap in the face to those parents, especially when you don't know what the **** you're talking about. Just give your condolences and move along, or at least, do the ten minute research about the topic before running your mouth.

    It's not that hard.
     
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