Top 5 players in the league entering the 2009/2010 season

lebron
kobe
wade
paul
howard
dirk
duncan
carmelo
bosh
roy
kg
durant
deron williams
nash
gasol
amare
al jefferson
parker
paul pierce
vc

 

Oh and here would be my Top 15 players just to add for the hell of it.

1. Kobe
2. LeBron
3. Wade
4. Paul
5. Duncan
6. Yao
7. Dwight
8. Dirk
9. Deron
10. KG
11. Roy
12. Melo
13. Gasol
14. Billups
15. Parker

 

1)Wade
2)Lebron
3)CP3
4)Kobe
5)Roy

 

1) Kobe
2) LeBron
3) Wade
4) Duncan
5) Yao

Yao's position would me much higher, if he were more aggressive, there are times where he is simply unstoppable. Then, there are games where he barely takes any shots at all and ends up with like 8 points.

If only Yao had that "leader" mentality...

 

< Kobe fan but I'll admit LeBron is the best player in the league coming into 09/10..

1. LeBron
2. Kobe
3. Wade
4. Paul
5. Howard..


I don't know how you don't have Paul or Howard on your list... Paul is New Orleans... we all know Dwight helped his team reached the finals last season and even though they lost... he's still easy the best center in the game today. The first 3 are automatic.

 

I based my list on who can really lead their team. Kobe has shown many times that in late-game situation he can take over, regardless of whether he's cold or hot.

LeBron, so far, is very inconsistant in the late-game stretch compared to Kobe.

Paul is overrated.

Howard has no offensive game.

 

Yeah... well that's a different approach I guess... I'm basing my list on sole talent and overall play.... not really leadership...

Nonetheless.. it's a joke to have Yao in that list....

I don't know how you think Paul is overrated....

Howard has no offensive game? Yet he puts up similar numbers to Yao... he has a better stat line than Yao does.... Talking about leadership... Howard led his team to the finals... In my opinion, Yao didn't even lead us to the 2nd round... I think it was a whole team play, even though Yao may have been the leader all season... he wasn't the leader in the playoffs for us.

 

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Umm, you are a member. You should be able to post threads.

 

So you are just talking about production now? Keep in mind, Karl Malone has better production numbers offensively than Tim Duncan, but I'd take Tim Duncan's offensive game over Karl Malone any day of the week, Learn the game before talking.

Dwight is not a Top 5 player.

 

Wait what?.... lol... I'm not understanding what you're saying...

EDIT: Oh, I get it... you're a YOF. I won't bother...

 

Lol, Yeah I am a YOF, I've just been following the Rockets around since the late 80s. But I'm a YOF. I like Yao, but I'm a Rocket fan first.

Anyways, Production doesn't always tell the story, otherwise Kobe Bryant isn't even a Top 3 player. Let's face it, You say Dwight produces just as much as Yao does, More actually. So are Dwyane Wade and LeBron James better scorers than Kobe too? I mean they produce more than Kobe too.....Don't be a hypocrite.

 

As for Dwight Howard. This guy is probably the best center in the game now, but that doesn't mean he is great. Sure, he has unbelivable body and his athleticism is amazing, but he has a lot of weaknesses too.

His biggest adventages are his strength, quickness and of course jumping ability. He is the best defender in the game now and you can't take that away from him. He deserved it. The way he is blocking all those shots is really spectacular.

But... Let's not overrate his offensive game. Right now he lives on dunks, layups, offensive rebounds, alley-oops and stuff like that. But one on one, back to the basket his repertoire is impecunious. I can even risk saying that he has no one on one game back to the basket. He has shown it in the Finals.

I remember one guy from TNT (don't remember who is that) said he would give him 3/10 for his play on the block on the offensive end.

BUT... This guy is still a kid. He needs to stop living in the weight room and start doing some exercises in the gym (with the ball) with Ewing. Because right now he lacks a lot on the offensive side on the court.

 

Well, Let me ask you this question, If Yao Ming was currently healthy would he be better than Dwight Howard?

And No, in my opinion either Kevin Garnett or Tim Duncan are the best defenders in the league and then Shane Battier and then there's Dwight Howard. Dwight Howard is an incredibly poor individual, 1 on 1, post defender.

 

Yao dominates Dwight head to head


DOMINATES

 

Yep, It's one thing that backs up Yao, but there are more reasonings as well. Usually Jon Barry defends me in this debate so did Jamal Mashburn. Jeff Van Gundy did say Dwight had the better season last season, but he would build his team around Yao over Dwight.

What's your take?

 

WeMissDekeMan... you just need to let that Yao love go... he's an injury-prone center who had potential to grab that throne of being the best center in the game... Dwight is better now... just accept that.

 

As of right now, that throne still belongs to Shaq. Nobody has emerged as the next great center.

I think Yao is better than Dwight. Better offensively, better defensively, better passer. He is better (as in more refined) in every category except rebounding and shotblocking.

He domiantes Dwight everytime heads up. You can build your team around Yao but you cannot build your team around Dwight.

 

I wouldn't even call Dwight the #1 reason they made the finals. He was a major reason but the outside shooting for Lewis/Turkoglu was the main reason

 

You can't go to Dwight in the 4th quarter.

Discounting injuries and age, I take Yao...