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Top 25 Point Guards

Discussion in 'NBA Dish' started by RocketsInFlight, Aug 2, 2002.

  1. RocketsInFlight

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    Below is my Top 25 Point Guard list. In parenthesis are the players rank from my last Top 25 list (April 22, 2002). HM = Honorable Mention and NR = Not Ranked. Members of the Rockets are in bold. Then there is my Honorable Mention (players 26-30 in alphabetical order), my Top 5 Backups, and my Top 5 Rookies.

    <b><u>Top 25 Point Guards:</b></u>
    01) Jason Kidd, NJN (1)
    02) Gary Payton, SEA (2)
    <b>03) Steve Francis, HOU (3)</b>
    04) Baron Davis, NOR (5)
    05) Andre Miller, LAC (4)
    06) Steve Nash, DAL (6)
    07) Mike Bibby, SAC (15)
    08) Sam Cassell, MIL (10)
    09) John Stockton, UTA (9)
    10) Stephon Marbury, PHO (7)
    11) Jason Terry, ATL (12)
    12) Nick Van Exel, DAL (8)
    13) Terrell Brandon, MIN (11)
    14) Damon Stoudamire, POR (13)
    15) Jay Williams, CHI (NR)
    16) Darrell Armstrong, ORL (14)
    17) Chauncey Billups, DET (21)
    18) Eric Snow, PHI (16)
    19) Tony Parker, SAS (HM)
    20) Jamaal Tinsley, IND (22)
    21) Alvin Williams, TOR (19)
    22) Derek Fisher, LAL (23)
    23) Jason Williams, MEM (17)
    24) Bobby Jackson, SAC (25)
    <b>25) Moochie Norris, HOU (HM)</b>

    <b><u>Honorable Mention:</b></u>
    Kenny Anderson, SEA (HM); Chris Childs, NJN (NR); Mark Jackson, DEN (18); Jeff McInnis, FA (20); Rod Strickland, FA (24)

    <b><u>Top 5 Backups:</b></u>
    01) Bobby Jackson, SAC
    02) Moochie Norris, HOU
    03) Chris Childs, NJN
    04) Kenny Anderson, SEA
    05) Chris Whitney, WAS

    <b><u>Top 5 Rookies:</b></u>
    01) Jay Williams, CHI
    02) Raul Lopez, UTA
    03) Dan Dickau, ATL
    04) Steve Logan, GSW
    05) Mark Jaric, LAC
     
  2. tozai

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    Have you actually seen Lopez or Jaric play?

    Otherwise, I think your list is pretty fair.
     
  3. LAfadeaway33

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    I would move Bobby Jackson and Tony Parker up and Jeff McInnis should be on the list.
     
  4. Drexlerfan22

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    Obviously, we could all nit-pick forever, but I think that's a very nice list you've got there. I think Terry is a little high and Jay Williams is premature, but that's just me.
     
  5. RocketsInFlight

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    No, I haven't. I'm just going on what I hear. Lopez will have a big role while Jaric is beind Andre Miller and Keyon Dooling, so that's my reasoning.
     
  6. hoopgod13

    hoopgod13 Contributing Member

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    I'd put the top 5 this way:

    1. Kidd
    2. Payton
    3. Miller
    4. Davis
    5. Francis

    But that's just me.
     
  7. Cato=Bum

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    B. Davis should be moved ahead of Francis for sure. He's just a smarter, better version of Steve with just as much athleticism.

    Move Parker way up (top 10 for sure) and Andre Miller down a tad.
     
  8. mfclark

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    Tony Parker should be moved up, and until he proves anything in the NBA, Jay Williams should be moved down. Perhaps these two should just be switched in the rankings.

    Moochie Norris shouldn't sniff the top 25, not with the other PG out there. Every one of the honorable mention PGs is better than Moochie. Jeff McInnis gets my nod to take his place on the list, as well as move further up the list.

    I don't think Cassell should be that high, nor should Jason Terry even be on the list owing to the fact that he is a shooting guard.
     
  9. moonnumack

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    Baron Davis still can't shoot worth a lick. I'd pick Franchise over him in a close one for 3rd.
     
  10. TheReasonSF3

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    Francis is a much better player than Davis. Davis can't shoot. Francis averaged 21.6 pts, 7 boards, and almost 7 dimes per game, even though he was injured all the time. If he hadn't been hurt the whole season, his numbers would've been higher. His numbers are already better than Davis'.
     
  11. XBeams

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    Gary Payton
    22.1 ppg
    4.8 rpg
    9 apg


    Steve Francis
    21.6 ppg
    7 rpg
    6.4 apg


    Baron Davis
    18 ppg
    4.3 rpg
    8.5 apg


    Andre Miller
    16.5 ppg
    4.7 rpg
    10.9 apg

    Jason Kidd
    14 ppg
    7.3 rpg
    9.9 apg
     
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    who ever's season stats are better should be placed higher. period.
     
  13. vj23k

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    Sure, Steve is a better shooter, but Baron Davis isn't too shabby either. Davis is a terrible free throw shooter, but from the field he is only slightly worse than Francis.
     
  14. jams3y

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    not period, unless you were to precede the "period" w/ "i just made a silly statement" . . . for starters, there's the argument that andre miller's assist totals are inflated . . . although i personally don't believe it, it's a start in the right direction towards the "stats don't tell all" point of view. actually, i don't even feel like debating this right now . . . it's just so inherently wrong . . . sure stats are a good indicator and all, but which stats do you place the most importance on / what about the things stats fail to measure, it really is just a silly statement. but since i gave a halfassatbest response, i see no problem w/ the statement standing . . . unless someone else feels like correcting it, marble slab is calling my name, so i whatever. i hope i'm not this lazy when school starts.
     
  15. ZRB

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    1. Payton
    2. Kidd
    3. Francis
    4. Davis
     
  16. Apollo Creed

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    Wait, why is your top 25 list important? I'm not knocking you or your list, I'm just curious as to why you think it's a big deal like this...
     
  17. LAfadeaway33

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    If it were up to the stats, Jason Kidd would be last of the four.
     
  18. Rocketability

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    It's not that he thinks his list is important. I think many people here just post their own opinions and want to start some basketball-related discussions.

    My list (it is very important :D ):

    1. Kidd
    2. Payton
    3. Francis
    4. Andre Miller
    5. Davis
     
  19. steddinotayto

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    1. kidd
    2. payton
    3. davis
    4. francis
    5. miller

    and to whomever that said davis can't shoot...i'm betting that y'all didn't see the playoffs when he ripped orlando a new a-hole
     
  20. TRADECUTTINO

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    Davis is a sweet liittle point guard. He's tough, grtty, has a nice three, hits clutch shots, gets his teammates involoved and has lead his team to the playoffs two years in a row.

    Francis is good, just at this point I give Davis the edge.
     

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