Below is my Top 25 Point Guard list. In parenthesis are the players rank from my last Top 25 list (April 22, 2002). HM = Honorable Mention and NR = Not Ranked. Members of the Rockets are in bold. Then there is my Honorable Mention (players 26-30 in alphabetical order), my Top 5 Backups, and my Top 5 Rookies. <b><u>Top 25 Point Guards:</b></u> 01) Jason Kidd, NJN (1) 02) Gary Payton, SEA (2) <b>03) Steve Francis, HOU (3)</b> 04) Baron Davis, NOR (5) 05) Andre Miller, LAC (4) 06) Steve Nash, DAL (6) 07) Mike Bibby, SAC (15) 08) Sam Cassell, MIL (10) 09) John Stockton, UTA (9) 10) Stephon Marbury, PHO (7) 11) Jason Terry, ATL (12) 12) Nick Van Exel, DAL (8) 13) Terrell Brandon, MIN (11) 14) Damon Stoudamire, POR (13) 15) Jay Williams, CHI (NR) 16) Darrell Armstrong, ORL (14) 17) Chauncey Billups, DET (21) 18) Eric Snow, PHI (16) 19) Tony Parker, SAS (HM) 20) Jamaal Tinsley, IND (22) 21) Alvin Williams, TOR (19) 22) Derek Fisher, LAL (23) 23) Jason Williams, MEM (17) 24) Bobby Jackson, SAC (25) <b>25) Moochie Norris, HOU (HM)</b> <b><u>Honorable Mention:</b></u> Kenny Anderson, SEA (HM); Chris Childs, NJN (NR); Mark Jackson, DEN (18); Jeff McInnis, FA (20); Rod Strickland, FA (24) <b><u>Top 5 Backups:</b></u> 01) Bobby Jackson, SAC 02) Moochie Norris, HOU 03) Chris Childs, NJN 04) Kenny Anderson, SEA 05) Chris Whitney, WAS <b><u>Top 5 Rookies:</b></u> 01) Jay Williams, CHI 02) Raul Lopez, UTA 03) Dan Dickau, ATL 04) Steve Logan, GSW 05) Mark Jaric, LAC
Obviously, we could all nit-pick forever, but I think that's a very nice list you've got there. I think Terry is a little high and Jay Williams is premature, but that's just me.
No, I haven't. I'm just going on what I hear. Lopez will have a big role while Jaric is beind Andre Miller and Keyon Dooling, so that's my reasoning.
B. Davis should be moved ahead of Francis for sure. He's just a smarter, better version of Steve with just as much athleticism. Move Parker way up (top 10 for sure) and Andre Miller down a tad.
Tony Parker should be moved up, and until he proves anything in the NBA, Jay Williams should be moved down. Perhaps these two should just be switched in the rankings. Moochie Norris shouldn't sniff the top 25, not with the other PG out there. Every one of the honorable mention PGs is better than Moochie. Jeff McInnis gets my nod to take his place on the list, as well as move further up the list. I don't think Cassell should be that high, nor should Jason Terry even be on the list owing to the fact that he is a shooting guard.
Francis is a much better player than Davis. Davis can't shoot. Francis averaged 21.6 pts, 7 boards, and almost 7 dimes per game, even though he was injured all the time. If he hadn't been hurt the whole season, his numbers would've been higher. His numbers are already better than Davis'.
Gary Payton 22.1 ppg 4.8 rpg 9 apg Steve Francis 21.6 ppg 7 rpg 6.4 apg Baron Davis 18 ppg 4.3 rpg 8.5 apg Andre Miller 16.5 ppg 4.7 rpg 10.9 apg Jason Kidd 14 ppg 7.3 rpg 9.9 apg
Sure, Steve is a better shooter, but Baron Davis isn't too shabby either. Davis is a terrible free throw shooter, but from the field he is only slightly worse than Francis.
not period, unless you were to precede the "period" w/ "i just made a silly statement" . . . for starters, there's the argument that andre miller's assist totals are inflated . . . although i personally don't believe it, it's a start in the right direction towards the "stats don't tell all" point of view. actually, i don't even feel like debating this right now . . . it's just so inherently wrong . . . sure stats are a good indicator and all, but which stats do you place the most importance on / what about the things stats fail to measure, it really is just a silly statement. but since i gave a halfassatbest response, i see no problem w/ the statement standing . . . unless someone else feels like correcting it, marble slab is calling my name, so i whatever. i hope i'm not this lazy when school starts.
Wait, why is your top 25 list important? I'm not knocking you or your list, I'm just curious as to why you think it's a big deal like this...
It's not that he thinks his list is important. I think many people here just post their own opinions and want to start some basketball-related discussions. My list (it is very important ): 1. Kidd 2. Payton 3. Francis 4. Andre Miller 5. Davis
1. kidd 2. payton 3. davis 4. francis 5. miller and to whomever that said davis can't shoot...i'm betting that y'all didn't see the playoffs when he ripped orlando a new a-hole
Davis is a sweet liittle point guard. He's tough, grtty, has a nice three, hits clutch shots, gets his teammates involoved and has lead his team to the playoffs two years in a row. Francis is good, just at this point I give Davis the edge.
