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Top 10 Small Forwards of the last decade

Discussion in 'NBA Dish' started by Francis 4 ever, Sep 28, 2009.

  1. Francis 4 ever

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    Is kevin garnett a point guard? He dished out 6 apg a game and carried the ball up court a good chunk of the time. That is as many as Gilbert arenas has ever dished out, Tony parker has dished out more once. KG is the best PG ever.
     
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    The point is you can't place people in positions based on how they play the game, you have to go by the only standardized method. Is Mehmet Okur a shooting gaurd? Is chuck hayes a center? Is Hedo a PG? What about KG? What position were Barkley, Michael, and lebron?
     
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    There is no standardized method.
     
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    And what is the closest thing? I think it is what teams classify them as.
     
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    completely agree
     
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    So if the Rockets were to list Yao as a PG, you'd agree even though it's illogical?
     
  7. Francis 4 ever

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    If chuck hayes could count to banana would you eat the sun?
     
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    I asked you a legitimate question. I'd like a legitimate answer.

    If the Rockets were to list Yao as a PG, you'd agree even though it's illogical?
     
  9. durvasa

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    Players aren't necessarily classified in one position on a given team. In some lineups, McGrady might be our "SG", in others he might be designated "SF". And of course, year to year, players often will play different positions.
     
  10. Francis 4 ever

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    When the rockets list yao as a PG we can have this discussion, but for now it is the best system. is it a perfect system? No. If some vindictive coach wants to prove francis 4 ever a fool he can go listing centers as PG, until then that question is just as productive as mine.
     
  11. KellyDwyer

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    The season really needs to start, for a lot of you people.
     
  12. Francis 4 ever

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    Or we could ask some questions based on reality. What position is Okur?
     
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    Aw a professional sports writer is throwing elbows. I'm honored if anything.
     
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    No offense, but if you can't answer hypothetical questions based on your own logic, then you simply don't know what you're talking about.

    If I had to pick one position, I'd say he's closer to being a center than anything else.
     
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    Sorry if I came off as a jerk, but in what ways has a player like Marion contributed more than those other guys? Did you just add up all the stats from the last decade and do your rankings based on that, so a player who played the entire decade would've had more "contributions" than a player with say 5 seasons? Also if durability is a such a big factor, why on the centers list would you penalize Yao Ming but not Jermaine O'Neal? Since '00, O'Neal has averaged 65.1 games per year, 16.5 ppg, 8.5 rpg and 2.2 bpg while his career high shooting percentage is 48.4%. Yao Ming, on the other hand, has averaged 68.7 games per year, 19.1 ppg, 9.3 rpg, 1.9 bpg and shoots better from the field and free throw line.
     
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    His game is no different than steve novak's is he a center too?
     
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    Lebron James is a point guard. :p

    It's weird I think this way but I'll call them their accepted position in discussions. Really, it doesn't mean anything...it's just a label.
     
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    So is hedo, tmac, and charles barkley.
     
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    I haven't followed Novak since he left the Rockets, but Novak was not a center, and he and Okur have different games.
     
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    Yes, a player who plays more over the term in question will contribute more than the player is not playing at all.

    And I don't get what average games matter. Brook Lopez averages more NBA games started at center per season than Yao, should I rank him?

    Jermaine O'Neal has played over two seasons more worth of basketball than Yao Ming over this term, and his offensive stats don't do nearly enough justice to his overall abilities defensively.

    I'm not picking the best center ever, or the best power forward ever. It's not a pick of, "in his prime, on March 23rd 2006, ______ was better than ______ was in his prime on December 19th, 2008."

    It's a list of the best players over the course of a decade. And since the beginning of decade (1999-00), Marion has been better than Brand et al.

    I've probably spent hours on this site defending Brand's abilities and accomplishments. Apparently this doesn't matter, now.
     

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