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Too many good players, no great ones

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by GBRocket, Oct 30, 2010.

  1. TheRealist137

    TheRealist137 Member

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    imo keep it simple

    Martin
    Battier
    Budinger
    Both Knicks picks

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    Melo

    Brooks/Lowry
    Lee/Taylor?
    Melo/Jeffries
    Scola
    Yao
     
  2. IceMan

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    Our 0-3 start doesn't automatically make Carmelo the answer either. Far from it.

    Acquiring Carmelo is the equivalent to somebody making $50,000 per year looking into buying a $80,000 Mercedes. Sure, it looks great, and you might get laid a few times, but you are digging a huge hole for yourself and you may not see the light of day for a long time.

    It's a huge risk and it may just be better to loo for another car.
     
  3. GBRocket

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    True, but unlike in business, the value of the basketball team doesn't add up to the some of the individual values of each player on the roster.
     
  4. durvasa

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    And what does that have to do with the way our front office has put our team together? They've been trying to acquire a big-time star for the last few years. One of the reasons they've been acquiring all these assets is so they can be a player in that market.
     
  5. GBRocket

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    Exactly. It hasn't worked. Now we have been left with a dysfunctional mess of a roster as no elite star wants to come here.
     
  6. DaJet

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    Where do I sign? :grin:
     
  7. durvasa

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    What would have worked? Having a superstar land in their laps out of the blue?

    I really don't understand what your criticism is.
     
  8. GBRocket

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    The criticism is that:

    1. We have neither a big three or an elite superstar, so our roster is not set up for success

    2. Despite "trying" to find the superstar we need via trade, we have not done so, and someone must be held accountable. If you or I don't do our job, we don't tell our boss "well, did you expect that to just fall into your lap?!"

    3. That person is Daryl Morey. If the strategy is to collect a ton of assets to trade for an elite star, then you have to also remember that you need someone to make a deal with you. In a superstar-led league, you need the relationships and credibility with the top agents and players around the league for them to want to come to here. Morey is no Pat Riley in that regard: pitches to the likes of Bosh, Paul and Carmelo, even Rashard Lewis seem to be brushed aside far too easily like they're not even taken seriously.

    4. Our scattershot, "any star will do" philosophy is totally unfocused. It just seems like we will make a pitch for any big name, no matter what position, who they are or where they're from. Iggy, Paul, Melo, Bosh are all such different players, it seems like we have no strategy and the recruiting pitch must seem played out when players see Morey's latest PowerPoint presentation players think "sure you tell every star" (when they have probably already had the file forwarded to them by one of their buddies on another team anyway). Also, having telegraphed our plans to every team, we are now at the mercy of every GM who knows exactly what we are trying to do and is likely to ask for a king's ransom in return for their star.

    5. Our present roster is dysfunctional due to its excessive depth. While we have lots of really good players, the fact that they have high trade value collectively does not help us win games. Too many people have a legitimate claim for minutes that there is no natural rotation. Adelman is like a kid in a candy store, paralyzed by having far too many choices. When he finally does settle on a rotation, 3-5 players will think they have been screwed over because player X is in front of them and it will bring down morale.
     
  9. MadMax

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    when i said this BEFORE the season my post was skewered. perspective changes quickly, i suppose.

    great post, by the way. Morey's religious following is creepy.
     
  10. tiger0330

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    And Adelman is playing too many good players. Spreading out the minutes among all these guys is disrupting the rhythm, time to tighten up the rotation.

    Yao is a major disruption either stop babying him and play him 31 minutes (I wouldn't make him play back to backs) or put him on the bench and play him 12 mpg until he fully recovers. Let Dampier or Miller be the starting center and sit Battier for Lee, Adelman needs to get over Battier and his supposed intangibles.
     
  11. GBRocket

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    An 0-3 start rightly makes you question the logic of some of Morey's moves.
     
  12. BetterThanEver

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    Are you giving yourself props? Do you have 2 accounts? :confused:
     
  13. MadMax

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    i can assure you...i'm not madmax11. if i wanted to give myself props, i'd come out and do it.

    here...i will...i told you all this team was fool's gold. it looks a bit like i was right, from what we've seen so far. of course it's still very early...but my guess is they'll play better and win some games..i don't think they're going to miss the playoffs...i just don't think they're going to end up with anything remotely resembling home court advantage. i can't believe so many people drank the kool-aid with this bunch, honestly.
     
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  15. GBRocket

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    yes, definitely not the same person
     
  16. txtodd

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    Have you ever even heard a Morey interview? Time after time he's talked about swinging for the fences, shipping out a lot of these "assets" and getting an elite player in return.
     
  17. Aleron

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    Morey has pretty much stated we need a superstar every single time he's been asked....the Homer's on this board are about the only ones who believed we were championship calibre, we're playoff roadkill at best as it stands.
     
  18. GBRocket

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    Yes. The point is it hasn't happened, now we're in a mess. See earlier posts.
     
  19. GBRocket

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    And that's also the point. Do you think Pat Riley talked about the need to get three superstars last season before they ended up getting Lebron, Wade and Bosh? Or Mitch Kupchak go to the media announcing he needed another star to go with Kobie before he got Pau Gasol? No! They just went about their business and got their deals done.

    Morey has got himself into a corner: all the GMs know what his strategy is, as he has telegraphed it to the whole league. He is so arrogant that he thinks that he can trick the league into giving him a roster full of tradeable talent so he can then package half of them up in a trade for a star. Newsflash: all the GMs know what he wants ane noone will help him get there. Who wants to be the fool who trades away their superstar to allow Morey to win a championship?
     
  20. gotsis

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    not trying to be annoying but, isn“t it obvious that every team lacking a star player actually wants to get one?
     

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