Uh, just because you have not read the books and don't believe the facts therein does not make it a conspiracy theory. It just makes you an idiot. Why the **** do you talk so much about stuff you are totally clueless about? EDIT: It appears Fatty just recently read The Jungle (or more likely, just heard about it). loltacular goodness.
No. It's not "fine", it's the same America you quote at the end of you post that has allowed these companies to become successful. WalMart. I know many hate them because of their employment practices and the way they "take mom-and-pop out of the game", but... your system allows it. It's legal. You don't want to work at Wal-Mart? Get a degree AND a better job. I have never bought a Michael Jordan anything, because I know I don't agree with what he has done. Let's leave him out of this for a moment and think about him as a basketball player. Is he successful? Yes. Has he made mistakes in the past? Yes. Do I agree with these? No. End of story. I love how you bring in my kids into this, moes. Really classy , thank you, sir. I won't bring YOUR family into this, but I must respond to your "stuff their faces with Big Macs" comment: Parents who do a good job of raising their kids and eating healthy will have no problem "stuffing their faces with a Big Mac" if they're healthy enough to eat once or maybe twice a week, yet continue to have a good lifestyle outside of eating ONCE or TWICE at the place you think has NOTHING BUT FATTENING food. There are other choices in the menu. You can also CHOOSE not to go there and CHOOSE not to go with your friends there. I never said eating there everyday or helping them keep the high school kids at a minimum wage was good. It is "YOUR America", too. The one YOU live in. You don't like it, don't support it. It's simple. LOL @ how this thread has gone from "there are many mcdonald's" to "McDonald's is the devil, Bobby Bouchere!". Haters.
He just wants to believe he's right. But I have no idea why he'd think I'd have no idea about Upton Sinclair and what The Jungle did to the meat-packing industry. Its only one best example out there about what can happen when somebody has the gall to question the current standard. The Fall of the Tobacco Industry in the 90s is another perfect example.
I tried to find the hour long documentary, but that is what came up. It was a lot more informative than that snippet, and personally I think that the snack wraps are not only lame, but are copycat products that Wendys and KFC came out with beforehand. But the entire program was very balanced on both arguments.
I don't buy into cospiracy crap like you do. And quit with the personal insults. WTF makes you so damn angry at the world? Christ.
The real ironic bit is that The Jungle is not written as a researched piece - it's a story. (again, I don't think Fatty's actually read it). The only reason change happened is because folks (particularly roosevelt) got upset reading/believing it, the same thing that fatty is lampooning in this thread as "conspiracy theory". On the contrary, books like Fast Food Nation have a bazillion citations and are filled with hard data.
Letting the Government define morality! Wow, that is the worst thing imaginable. You really don't understand much about this subject Swoly, just go back to your smiley faces and Thats What She Said. This isn't your league. I asked you a perfectly reasonable question pertaining to the topic. How was I disparaging your family in any way? Why are you so defensive about me talking about a hypothetical situation involving your daughters when you allow the advertising industry to w**** themselves out to your same daughters on a daily basis and you're ok with it because its all in the name of "America, where anything legal is fair" and "Hater" is the stupidest word anyone has come up with in the past 2 decades. Pure ignorance when somebody calls somebody else a "hater" because they can't come up with a better argument. If I'm a hater for wanting a higher standard from the Fast Food companies, then call me the biggest hater in the whole ****ing world.
If it's not what I believe, it's a conspiracy!!!! Those damn facts and their conspiracies! Leave McDonalds Alone!
Seriously. Schloser was prepared for the barrage of imbecilic "well thats not a fact its a conspiracy" when he wrote Fast Food Nation. There are virtually 2 chapters worth of citations at the end.
well, big people have to eat too...j/k... There are tons of them just about on every corner, but especially on the highway...it's quick, easy and hard to avoid on road trips...
If you're aware, then why is the Monsanto thing and quality "F" meat not getting more of an outcry? Do you really think the Government is responible and hiding information?
They're not doing anything illegal. You know what I mean, don't say it isn't moral or it is to serve food. I don't understand that eating too much is different than how a company becomes successful, and that people who eat too much fast food aren't healthy, and that is out of my league? Ok. So I'll continue with "that's what she saids" and smileys. Thanks for your permission! I won't argue the legal point, but bringing up what age any of my children are or what they do is irrelevant to this whole thing. Yes, I bring my family to McDonald's on occasion. Yes, I buy their food. I am unlike the people you're saying are unhealthy. I don't stuff my face with a Big Mac. I enjoy it, and I can, because I know how to control myself with the fast food. Yes, you hate the fact that their lower standards of food is what attracts your fellow community. Instead of hating the fact that there are too many of their franchises, put one up yourself and compete. There aren't too many McDonald's. There are many people in the United States who can't control their eating habits at fast food places and they blame those places instead of themselves for their lack of control.
You've done similar things before. http://bbs.clutchfans.net/showpost.php?p=4559638&postcount=56 http://bbs.clutchfans.net/showpost.php?p=4559743&postcount=62
I see McDonalds everywhere, but that doesn't make me eat there. Their food sucks. BK burgers are better. Wendy's Chicken is better. The only reason I see why people eat there is they have a better value menu. Eating FF even a couple of times a week isn't that bad for you, if you eat fine the rest of the time. Just don't go ordering a Double Big Mac with Cheese, extra Mayo, a large fry, and a large drink. You don't need that much food, and you certainly should never buy soda out(higher cost, plus free refills tempt you to get even more).
Clarence Thomas himself is a former Monsanto lawyer. The people who are at the top of the FDA and USDA are usually also former Big Ag corporate bigwigs. The FDA is almost worthless these days when it comes to doing anything they don't have a vested interest in. Not to mention the lobbyists. Monsanto is in bed with all the right people, and has a monopoly on seeds. They have literally gotten away with murder 1000 times over.
1) That's about an actor and an actress and what they did on TV, as it has no comparison to a restaurant serving food... and 2) if it was from you, I'd accept it willingly, 'cuz you're also a parent. In fact, I'd welcome a recent parent's opinion about children before I accept it from someone without, just bringing up my kids. AND I was talking for future reference to you as a parent from another parent.
The grade F meat comment was not a fact. I was insulting their food. I'm sure they'd tell you their meat comes from a magical dairyland where cows eat the finest grass all day and frolic around and nothing bad ever happens and rainbows shoot out of their asses for no particular reason.
Ridiculous logic. I'm sorry Swoly, I'm ignoring whatever you say in the rest of this thread. I like you personally, but I'm not going to continue to debate this with you when you've made it clear you aren't willing to rationally discuss this.
And yet life expectancies continue to rise. Look, I understand that Obesity in this country is awful, and these companies are getting increased pressure to make their foods healthier. A portion of the blame can be attributed to companies that make fatty foods. But I love the stuff, and yet I'm not fat. Gluttony is the biggest reason for obesity.
