Quote by Gater Please list just one attribute of Francis's game that has improved since he joined the NBA. Has he learned to FBreak? Does he have a floater shot? Can he run a dynamite PnR? Has he improved his half-court decison making skills? For the times he's played SG with Moochie or MJax, has he learned how to come off a baseline screen and elevate quickly for a shot? ____________________ SF has improved in all of the attributes you have listed. Does he still make mistakes? Yes. SF will never be JKidd, and that's OK. You don't have to be the best PG in the league to be a great NBA player. Even if you were correct, which I do not believe you are, SF making mistakes during the course of his career does not make him stupid. Calling him that is just plain stupid. We can argue all you want on FB, but the fact is that due to SF being the rebounding fource he his, which typically places him under the basket or in that area, SF will never be the FB PG you appear to so desparately desire. Again, SF is using his athletic abilities for the benefit of the team. "Floater shot", whatever. SF makes all kinds of sick circus type shots and continues to impress. In fact, during the laker series, the announcers made a statement to the effect that only SF and Kobe regularly make those types of shots in this league and that's pretty good company don't you think. PnR takes two, but it seems to me that the SF/Yao PnR was pretty awesome in the Lakeshow series and the announcers regularly pointed that out. In the end, SF has done what he was asked to do, with the resources he has had at his disposal (pretty much Nada). This team has been in a constant state of flux in his 5 years with players coming and going, or being injured, or at the end of thier career, etc. Not exactly the perfect situation for a young guard to improve. Despite that fact, I believe that he has improved. Quote by Gater What does Francis do when he's not dribbling? Nada. And that's not team ball and unless we deal him we'll be stuck in mediocrity as Francis' primary calling card...athleticsm...ebbs away. ____________________ Try rebounding, stealing, blocking, etc.. I guess that is doing nothing??? I guess that averageing 20/6/6 is also nothing? We may be stuck in mediocrity, but its not becasue of SF. It's the Cato's/MoT's and other bad personnel moves that are creating mediocrity. Without a supporting cast, a great player is wasted talent. (See T-Mac in Orlando). T-Mac is almost twice the player SF is, and he can't carry orlando to anthng but less than mediocrity. Less than what the rockets have done under SF. And as far as athleticism ebbing away, it happens to everyone. But for now, it is his greatest asset and is better than most NBA players in the league. Discounting that is simply, dare I say it, STUPID.
