I beat my kids. Everything in moderation imho. My kids needed it when they were younger and I obliged. Now that they are older I don't do it because I can take away their crap or a grounding, which means way more than a spanking would. I would only resort to "violence" if they are being disrespectful, something I will never tolerate from my own kids. The way I see it, what's the point of bustin' your chops for a family who doesn't appreciate it? The least a child can do is respect their parents.
I do not spank children and will not spank mine if I ever have any but his children are not mine so he can do what he wants to them...as long as it is not illegal.
I pre-emptively spank children that aren't even mine. And when they turn out to be good kids, I claim that the spanking I gave them was the cause and credit myself.
I don't have kids and if I do I'm not sure I would want to spank them. I was spanked (although rarely) as a kid and went to school at at time when paddling was still allowed and paddled once or twice too. On top of that my first Judo instructor was real old school and would walk around with a bamboo sword and give wacks when he thought students weren't concentrating or even to make a point about proper form. I'm not sure any of that really made me a better or worse person. Following on Lil Pun's point though I don't think this is an area that government should be involved in. As long as the spanking is only causing mild pain and no injury I think it should be up for parents to decide how they raise their kids. Also for Mr. MEOWGI I presume you are aware that corporal punishment is used in traditional Zen practice. During meditation a monk will be in charge of the meditation and will carry a stick to be used to whack meditators who are falling asleep or not maintaining correct posture. I've heard from some practitioners that they prefer that sort of practice because it helps to keep them focussed on their meditation.
I agree that parents should do what they think is best, after all they are ultimately responsible for the child's actions. Parenting has never been a science and it will never be.
That's not corporal punishmet, but I guess... Do they do it to unwilling children or just those who wish to participate? I know The Rev. Kobutsu Malone, Buddhist priest and prison chaplain of the Engaged Zen Foundation has given his thoughts: http://www.corpun.com/usd00012.htm
It is corporal punishment because it is deliberate pain inflicted upon one's body to enforce behavior. I agree though that they probably don't do it on unwilling children but my point was that it is a violent act meant to enforce behavior that Buddhist themselves have chosen to enter this practice willing shows that there is a certain amount of violence that is accepted and even welcomed in some Buddhist sects. Not knowing anything about the priest I'm presuming he might be a Soto Zen practitioner which doesn't follow that practice.
I think it's really only considered violence when the pain is resisted. This is where things get real fuzzy.
Children are natural slaves until they become of age, but before that they should be treated like the slaves they are.
I think children need a spanking.. Meow what would you do if your kids had no respect for you and did as they please how would you reign them in or discipline them? J
If I have kids, I don't know if I'll be able to spank them. You know, when some people look back and think about their parents spanking them they can laugh about it, but I can't when I think about my dad. He would be so angry and he'd use a belt. He'd blow up and yell at my mom and the rest of us who weren't even in trouble and then storm off and go drink. When my brother and I got older, he'd slap us on the head pretty hard. Some people say their parents mellowed out with their later kids, but my youngest sister got it the worst. She would get in trouble a lot, but she didn't deserve to get whipped as hard as she did. There were no school counselors calling our house when we were in elementary and middle school, but they did for my youngest sister. I know that not everybody who spanks their kids is like that and I know there are kids who were really abused (I can't imagine getting straight up punched by a parent), but that's my experience. I guess I won't know until I have kids, but for now, I plan on keeping a pile of cinder blocks around like Joe Jackson in that tv movie about the Jacksons. I'll toss their favorite toys into the fire place and make them watch, and I'll sell off their Playstation 5 or Apple iBox.
facetious comment.... If a kid needs to be spanked to be disciplined, then the kid needs to be spanked. Sometimes you cant control a 5 year old with words.
