Tons of British Katrina Aid to be Burned by Americans

Sigh. First, that you finally admit there ARE scenarios in which these regulations ARE for health concerns cuts deeply into your 'its all economic/political argument.' Second, it doesn't have to be raw. If you'll look at the articles in the thread they have distributed the MREs without meat in them. Since mad cows disease is deadly, hence the regulation, I am not in favor of distributing those MREs to Katrina refugees. If you are then we'll just have to agree to disagree. No one is starving in any of the affected areas, certainly not in 10 days so IMO why risk killing them? That kinda defeats the point of trying to help them. If your argument is that the mad cow related ban with britain is to protect the US beef market from being overwhelmed by the British cattle industry, then I suspect you may own a flat in the UK but have never been there - nor btw ever eaten British beef which is by and large disgusting.

Why risk one life? From the USDA site about the human variant of mad cow's: How many cases of vCJD have there been and have there been any in the United States? As of December 1, 2003, a total of 153 cases of vCJD had been reported in the world: 143 from the United Kingdom, six from France, and one each from Canada, Ireland, Italy, and the United States. (Note: The one case of variant Creutzfeldt-Jakob disease in the United States is in a young woman who likely contracted the disease while living in the United Kingdom. Symptoms appeared after she moved to the United States. The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention has not found additional cases in the United States through its surveillance program.)

You just make too many assumptions without supporting data. Nice edit, btw - you left out the part that said they released those they inspected. You assume they sent no other supplies instead. Do we know whether or not they occupied their time shipping other supplies or just sat there sharpening pencils? No. Nothing in any of the articles indicates anything but that some donors were pissed off about it. Its just as likely that out of the 1800+ tons at LR for distribution they set aside any with concerns and concentrated getting the non-controversial supplies out. Again, not enough data to tell but I'm pretty sure they just weren't sitting there staring at MRE boxes.

C'mon, that's just weak. You avoid the point by trying to get cute. You don't have any data that shows the 'people you saw on tv' would have had food any sooner if this had never happened, period. You can't even come close to that. Until you do this is much ado about nothing.

 

Nothing wrong with a full english breakfast (except pork n beans is a little strange).

Beef specifically is what i'm talking about. We should exchange restaurant lists

I wouldn't suggest eating me .

Nope, a tie goes to me. If there's not enough data either way then you shouldn't be ranting so much.

Uh, no. I'm not the one making declarations about what did or did not happen. The burden of proof is on you, chief.

 

Okay, I declare it's a tie between pippen and hayes, for now.

My wife will be in London this weekend. Can you guys recommend some good restaurants? You know the tiebreaker can go either way ...

 

pippendagimp hits some of the more famous places (famous for a reason although I haven't been to Electric Cinema - care to give us some insight ppndgimp? or Yau's places except Wagamamma), so here are some you won't be rubbing elbows with the gentry at (necessarily):

Merkato Ethiopian Restaurant: 193A Caledonian Road, London, N1 0SL

A family run traditional ethiopian restaurant. Great people, diverse customer base (so you don't worry about feeling out of place) and food. If you like spicy food this is a great (and not to steep pricewise) place to go. Full bar, beer, and traditional honey mead from Ethiopia (watch out - mead is some STRONG stuff). Can't go wrong with just about anything but they have a doro wot and awazi tibs combo that is spectacular. Ayeb begomen (spicy spinach and cottage cheese) and azipha (green lentils with some kinda mustard spice) recommended as well. We're big Ethiopian fans and this is the best we found in London or New York.

Zamoyski - 85 Fleet Road, Hampstead, LONDON, NW3 2QY
Tel: 0871 332 0382

Sweet tiny Polish restaurant with great grub and a big board of flavored vodkas. We lived right around the corner across from the Heath and ate there a lot. Food is hearty but wonderful.

Kulu Kulu Sushi; 76 Brewer Street, W1, (020) 7734 7316

My daughter's favorite (ok, her favorite is really Yo! Sushi but its only because of those stupid talking robot waiters). Stays busy and so the kaiten style choices stay fresh. In Soho so around plenty of nightlife.

More 'famous' places not on Pippdagimps list might be Nobu if she hasn't been; J Sheekey's (sister to The Ivy but better food, service, and less A-lister hassle IMO); and Aubergine (Ramsey's gone but food and wine list still great).

pippendagimp: sweet! since you recommend all of his places i'll definitely try Yau's upscale places. thanks! you leasehold your flat? i never could understand how they got away with that!

 

Cool, thanks hayes!

One observation, many of the restaurant names you and pippendagimp listed seem kinda exotic (as opposed to British sounding). Is that typical in London?

 

No problem, glad to help. Absolutely great city (sometimes my wife and I wonder why we left - but after 9/11 - well, that's for another thread)...

Two things: (a) british food has a bad rep - although there are apparently some really good up and coming chefs specializing in english cuisine [just saw anthony bordain's show from london - dude's hilarious - and he was ranting about a couple of them; and (b) England is so multicultural with the subcontinental, east asian, and african immigrations over the last 300 years. When the ruled most of the world they brought a lot o' **** home. Some of the fancier places will be continental/finer european menus with famous chefs and the smaller places will be more ethnics bringing their local food into play.