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Tomjanovich on 610 not thrilled with Ming

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by RocketToTheMoon, May 20, 2002.

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What is Ming going to Do to the Rockets?

  1. Help them gain more fame internationally, more revenue!

    38 vote(s)
    60.3%
  2. Help team chemistry with diversity

    5 vote(s)
    7.9%
  3. Hurt team chemistry

    6 vote(s)
    9.5%
  4. Be Kelvin Cato's b**** in practice!

    14 vote(s)
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  1. Axeman

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    Dude, what are you smoking? Do you think the Grizzlies would even think for ONE SECOND about trading Gasol???

    But, I can't say I don't like the idea. Wish it wasn't a pipe-dream. :)
     
  2. bigboymumu

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    I came away thinking the same thing. I honestly believe after hearing that interview that Rudy will trade the pick.
     
  3. Der Rabbi

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    Why on earth would Memphis do that? Why would they risk losing a budding allstar & the 4 for a risky pick at 1 if they take Ming or a Point guard for a team that is too small in the big West already.
     
  4. Bonomaniac

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    I don't understand why everyone feels we're going to get a blockbuster deal in return for the #1 pick.

    Why is Memphis trading Gasol?

    Why would Chicago send us either guy from last year?

    Why would the Clippers send us Odom AND Olowokandi for a draft pick and sh*t?

    I think the best we could hope for is a pick and a future pick...unless Golden State is as dumb as we all think.
     
  5. Relativist

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    Man, I trust Rudy and all, but I REALLY hope he knows what he's doing if he's going to bypass Yao for Dunleavy, essentially. In my opinion, Rudy better have good reasons for thinking Dunleavy is going to be the next Larry Bird or Yao is going to be the next Shawn Bradley (which I don't believe) for this not to be a big mistake. I mean, right now, people don't even think he's necessarily better than Shane Battier. I'd love to have Battier on this team, as a matter of fact, and I even suggested trading down to get him yesterday, but I don't think you pass on Yao for Dunleavy. Not unless you're confident Yao will bust. We'll see.
     
  6. Achebe

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    Rudy hasn't the foggiest about any of these players. Carroll & Les will hand him Ming, just like they did Eddie last summer, and Rudy will be fine with it.
     
  7. Prempeh

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    Flashback to last year...

    Rudy walks in the war room: What happened?

    Random exec guy: Cleveland took Diop

    Rudy: Is that good?



    I kind of lost a little bit of faith in Rudy after seeing that video clip
     
  8. gr8-1

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    Drafting Dunleavy #1 overall would be a mistake. Not saying he sucks, but we could get more. IF his name were Mike Smith, would he be as valuable?
     
  9. heypartner

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    Oh my, is that propaganda run through an language translater.

    Maybe I need to write a haiku about how if Yao signs an NBA contract with us then we own his ass and can dress him in pajamas to run around for us, AT WILL.
     
  10. Sane

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    For all of those who are so high on Dunleavy, ask Francis what everyone said about Walt Williams when he was going to enter the draft. Bring up the comparisons, the weknesses, strengths, what they thought he'd be.


    Mike Dunleavy will become very good, but he will never become quicker/faster/and doesn't look like he'll get much stronger.


    I love his game, and know about the fundementals and everything. But he's worth the #6 pick and down.

    But I must say, Caron Butler sounds much better right about now.


    I really hope we trade the pick, because Yao Ming will never attend training camp. When he arrives for the season, he'll already have been playing competitive basketball. So most probably, if we DO make the playoffs, he'll be EXTREMELY tired at that time.


    Jay Williams is the best player in the draft. Let's dangle him in front of the Clippers, and try to get either Miles and Kandi, or Odom and Kandi.
     
  11. The Real Shady

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    You've got to be joking, right???
     
  12. DCkid

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    I don't know if he's joking or not, but it wouldn't matter either way. Rudy's job is to look at the players, work them out, and give his opinion on which ones would fit in best with the Rockets. As far as coming up with all the infinite draft scenaros that can occur is not Rudy's job. You can bet that CD has charts, tables, and mock drafts of all the possibilities that could occur. They probably have reports for each team and a couple candidates that each team is likely to pick. Based on Cleveland taking Diop could have meant several different things. It could help the Rockets guess how the next few picks will be effected because of it, and thus help determine if their guy would still be available with their next pick. Its not like either of you had any clue as to whether Cleveland taking Diop was a good thing for the Rockets either.
     
  13. The Real Shady

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    Posted by DCkid:
    Yeah, but personally I think a coach should have some idea of the teams gameplan going into the draft. So if CD does have these charts and mock drafts set up does he not let Rudy look at them or does Rudy not care to look at them?
     
  14. NJRocket

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    Fellas...I dont know what type of pro Dunleavy will turn out to be but the one positive is that Jerry West is in love with the guy. I personally have never been in love with Dunleavy's game (maybe because Im a Terp or maybe because he is pencil thin) IF you dont trust RT's or CD's judgement, then at least trust West's. West is apparently so high on the guy that he may be bringing in Dunleavy Sr to coach in an effort to make junior comfy.

    This is what they pay scouts for. A guy could average 5 points and 8 rebounds in college and he may be considered a better pro prospect than a guy who averages 20 and 10. Just let the chips fall where they fall boys and girls.

    I think we are all on cloud nine and we are still letting it sink in that WE control the NBA draft. This is going ot be the start of something BIG!
     
  15. DCkid

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    Well, I seriously doubt he would have them all memorized. The amount of scenarios can grow exponentially, and I imagine it all becomes pretty complex. Based on the post, it says Rudy walked into the room and asked the question. If you're assuming that because of Rudy asking that question that he has no idea of a gameplan going into a draft or doesn't really care enough to review all the possibilities, I think you would be jumping to extreme conclusions.
     
  16. Stickfigure

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    I'm not one to make fun of non-native speakers of English, but this line is really priceless. :D
     
  17. Rockets2K

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    I agree, I don't think he's the answer for the Rockettes I dont believe his high-kicks would be up to their standards (besides, he would look plain-ole nasty in a dress.) :D

    Amen to that!
     
  18. montgo

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    thoughts:

    1. Ming is no Bradley...Ming can shoot much better, is more athletic, has more speed and is more agile on D...so, we know he will probably be an impact player, but not a star early on.

    2. Dunleavy v Butler...not completely sold on Dunleavy and I think Butler is not worth a top 10...Butler reminds me a little of a more physical Richard Jefferson....Dunleavy IMHO is not physical enough to be the top 5-8...I would take Butler over Dunleavy, but both in the 6-12 slots

    3. Is everyone forgetting about Woods? This guy is a combination of Butler and Dunleavy. he is has the physical attributes and o skills to play the 3.

    4. Trading down is a distinctive possibility due to there not being a clear number one in this draft. I would not be surprised to see us go down to 3-5 and add a vet player or negate an owed number 1
     
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    :cool: I would have to agree on Butler on one issue...I see him as a Mario Elie with scoring potential of 20/10 every night...why I still prefer Dunleavy is he's going to give you 20/ 8/ and 6 assists every night
     
  20. Manny Ramirez

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    If we wind up taking Dunleavy at #1, and we don't get anything else (additional picks, other veteran players, etc.), then I will seriously think about rooting for another team.

    I mean come on....how stupid would you have to be in choosing Dunleavy #1???

    Besides Caron Butler & Woods are better options at SF, IMO, than Dunleavy.

    No brainer, Rudy, draft Ming.
     

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