Tom Thibodeau will be the head coach by the end of the season. EJ was not at the Wizard's draft in NY. The team's reason was that he was at home in New Jersey. He could have easily drove from New Jersey to the draft in NY. He doesn't need a plane. Mike O'Koren was EJ's lead assistant and choice. His demotion is Ernie Grunfeld's decision, not Eddie Jordan's choice. Finally, Tom will get a crack at the head coaching position. link
Had to bring your boy Spanoulis into this, too? Thibodeau's situation in Washington was just too awkward. The GM hired him to be the eventual replacement of the Head Coach, Eddie Jordan, whom the GM does not like. Thibodeau had a 2 year contract while the rest of the staff have one year left. Not a formula for harmony on the coaching staff.
That Wizards front office is just falling apart. Ernie Grunfeld and Eddie Jordan are playing a bad cat and mouse game and Thibodeau just became a pawn in their little game. Grunfeld wants Thibodeau to be the future coach as evidenced by the fact that he was the only assistant to get a 2 year deal (everyone else got 1 year deals) and also evidenced by the fact that he's the only guy on that damn coaching staff who knows anything about defense and lord knows the Wizards really need help there. Meanwhile Eddie Jordan sees the writing on the wall and basically tells Thibodeau to f-ck off and that he won't let him be the lead assistant. Thibodeau wisely just walks away from that charade and avoids that nonsense. Just sheer stupidity on the part of the Wizards front office and coaching staff.
Sorry if I sounded a bit harsh. I was just pointing out the hypocrisy in the way people react to the two situations. Tom did what he thought was right for his career, which is the smart thing. It is just irony, that's all. DD
I have no idea, but he signed a contract and then quit on that contract, right? And again, I am sure Thibs is doing what he thinks is right for his career, which I support 100%. IMO, everyone has the right to do whatever they think is right for their own personal success. We are all individual contractors, IMHO. None of us know what their true reasons are, I just find hypocrisy in the comparison of this situation and Billy's....both to me are a case of someone doing what they think is best for themselves. DD
Not according to your past posts... "shades of gray", "no black and white" come to mind. 1) Spanoulis can leave - I really don't care; if it's for family, then more power to him. It was plainly stated that he didn't like it here; that he couldn't "survive". That's what everybody cracked on - that he was being a wuss and running home to mama. Sparta be damned! 2) Thibodeaux leaves because - we don't know yet. He could be leaving because he doesn't want to be a pawn in a war between coach and management or that he doesn't want to be brought in as a successor for a coach about to be served up. Leaving under those circumstances would be honorable, if you ask me. You can't say 2 things are a hypocrisy when you have no idea what the reasoning is on one of them. And no, everybody wasn't saying "a contract is a contract" in VSpan's situation - that's just how you're managing to defend your boy in this thread. The situations are not similar... yet.
Sorry, D.o.D, Maybe I have not been clear. This is exactly in line with that, it is entirely gray, for both of them...... I saw a lot of that as well as people just pissing on him because he quit, I just see it as posturing, and want to wait to see what happens. I completely agree, I think Thibs did the right thing, no argument here at all. I am not talking about the actual event of either leaving/quitting just people's reaction to those events, when IMO, they really don't know the true reason for either guy breaking or trying to break their contract. For the record, if Billy wants to leave, I agree with Clutch, get something for him, use his contract. Again, I am just making a comment on the irony of the two situations and how both guys are essentially quitting - you are correct in that the situations are completely different and not related. But by some people's accounts, a contract is a contract.........that is not my view, I think a player/coach do whatever is right for themselves. DD
I hate to hear this since it would mean the Wizards might be team turmoil next season and Gilbert has to put up with it. Then again, he and Eddie Jordan aren't exactly the best of friends.
The difference is that VSpan was built up to be God on this board by a certain few who shall go nameless. People are fed-up that they spent the season listening to VSpan being built up in every thread on this board no matter what it was about and the end result is the guy wants to go home to mama. Actually, it's a bit comical. Yeah, I agree VSpan should be allowed to go back home to his family if that's what he wants and if that's really the reason he wants to go back, but I sure as hell don't blame the people pissed off at him. Thibs? Nah... we had no investment in him on this board.
Fair enough, I concede that point, and clearly I was a key member of the "Build em up" camp. Not going to hide from that, I still have hopes that Morey and Adelman can convince him to honor his contract. A man can dream, right? As for the topic, I just saw Irony in how one was treated vs the other, but I think your argument as to why is stronger than mine. DD