Tom Steyer - The Left's "Koch Brother" and Driver of Green Energy Policy

I'm not arguing with you. You just said that the Koch's can't be compared to Steyer. I'm asking you why you think that. You didn't refute the facts from the OP about the AEE & Steyer's vested ties to Sungevity and their pushing for policies that directly benefit from their vested interests.

You just said it was "smoke." You can't deny the direct investments because their capital groups directly invested in the company! Their trade associate directly lobbied for them. There is a direct link that people conveniently ignore because it fits their political agenda. I guess double standards are cool today.

 

Sure, my assumptions are based on personal life experiences with people that have bought into what I believe are scare tactics pushed by environmentalist groups and those with a vested interest in the end game of these tactics. The majority of people that I talk to know nothing to very little about the pros and cons of each energy source. They don't know the difference between the different greenhouse gasses when it comes to heat trapping characteristics.

These personal life experiences come from working in the energy industry for 10 years and working with people on the ground from all different walks of life. There's nothing wrong with attempting to explain or having a fact based conversation. So sure... I assume that the person that is regurgitating the same points I hear on a regular basis that have either been dispelled or aren't well rounded with respect to all sectors of the economy doesn't know enough.

You should also understand that I'm going to defend my livelihood and an industry that is being crapped on under the guise of "saving the planet." I don't have a problem with environmental regulations (I deal with them on a daily basis), but I do have a problem with too much regulation and the call for the destruction of every family in the oil & gas industries' current ability to put food on the table. I also don't have a problem with funding alternative sources of energy.

"The rest of your argument "Koch versus Steyer" is just smoke..."
It appeared that you made an implication that there was no comparison, but failed to make any reasoning behind why you thought it was smoke.

Finally, the issue here is hypocrisy that is justified due to subjective moral reasoning.

 

Where did I say it wasn't and shouldn't receive government funding? Where did I say I hate solar? I'll use it when it saves me money by monthly bill or tax incentive. You on the other hand can be quoted with saying "dirty dependence on oil." If you use any products that enhance the "dirty dependence on oil" then you are a hypocrite that keeps the demand up for petroleum production and products.

I never said climate change was a hoax. I clearly stated that human-caused greenhouse gases trap heat in the atmosphere. I also stated that the energy industry is only a drop in the bucket when it comes to the most dangerous greenhouse gas emissions and water usage as compared to big agriculture. I hope you're a vegan. Drill baby drill (and fracking technology) is the reason America has become the #1 fossil fuels producer and reduced our need for foreign imports that support enemy governments. We have <$3/MCF gas and $60/bbl oil because of our drilling capabilities. This means less drilling world wide and cheaper items for everybody else. Solar will continue to get funded and will be put into use in states where it's economically viable (i.e.: California). It will hopefully also receive research to create technologies that make it compatible to existing power sources (mostly hydroelectric and natural gas).

Again, I never said I supported Koch or his candidates. All I meant was that we know exactly who the Koch brothers are! We don't know who Steyer is. The only thing we know that he made his money off of hedge funds and coal mining! And now that coal has virtually been phased out he had this moral moment of clarity....

Steyer is already rich! He's worth $2.6B. The money involved is corporate personhood that was built on hedge fund and coal money.

So if you dislike the methods of Koch, but champion Steyer's methods because he's fighting for a good cause... then that makes you guilty of hypocrisy and turnspeak based on a subjective moral compass.

I don't like Koch's methods and I don't like Steyer's methods. They threaten to destroy the very fabric of what our country was built on. The people should be the ones with the most power to get candidates elected... not lobbyist money!

 

As a separate post, let's clarify:

hy·poc·ri·sy
həˈpäkrəsē/
noun
the practice of claiming to have moral standards or beliefs to which one's own behavior does not conform; pretense.