Tom Savage - Texans' fourth round (#135 overall) pick

Ha ... its funny....inTERception. CLevaaaaaa!

 

Got to love assumptions and predictions Remii. Lol If Fitzpatrick start off pretty good Savage or any other QB will touch the field. Unless dude suffers an injury. But if he doesn't Savage might be the next man up 4 sho pimp.

 

If "IF" was a 5th _ you must be drunk... Or however it goes. Lol.

 

The Savage thread is number one in the Texan's forum? Wow.

 

Bill O'Brien downplays possibility of Savage starting this season:

http://www.cardiachill.com/2014/6/2...pitt-football-pittsburgh-panthers-case-keenum

 

Who knows whether or not this guy pans out, but the measurables are there. I like this guy's chances.

 

bwhahahahah we are all drunk around here sir, assumptions and predictions are forms of IF's ..hahaha

 

From an interview on Cossell talking about BoB

 

From what I understand about OB and Smith's philosophy, they weren't going to overdraft a QB. Bortles might've been #1 on OBs board, but they didn't have him graded as the #1 guy in the draft so they didn't take him. They didn't have Carr or Garoppolo graded as a high 2nd rounder so they didn't take either of them. But I believe they had Savage graded as a 4th rounder so when he was still there at #135, they took him. There had been rumblings about the Texans taking Savage at #33. If Savage really was the 1st or 2nd QB on OBs board, he probably would've taken him in the 2nd or 3rd, unless he thought that the QB class was so bad that 2nd best QB was only worth a 4th round pick.

 

If BOB thinks Savage is a starting caliber QB down the road, He'd have been our 2nd or 3rd round pick. There are no such things as "should be starter down the road" guys by the end of the 4th round, much less a QB at that draft position. Savage is nothing but a lottery ticket.

 

All Quarterbacks picked by the end of the 4th round or later never became good or great starters?

 

It's extremely rare. In recent history you have Tom Brady, Tony Romo and ________?????

After that, the BEST guys are guys like Kyle Orton, David Garrard, Matt Cassell, and Ryan Fitzpatrick. Below average starters who maybe had one good year. More likely they're guys like TJ Yates, Sage Rosenfels, John Skelton, Dan Orlovsky, AJ Feely, Curtis Painter or like 50 other guys whose names you don't know because they never played.

Can you draft a guy in the 4th who turns into a good starter? Sure. Nothing's impossible. But if you really think a guy is going to be good, you don't wait until the 4th to take him because if any other team really thought he'd be good, he wouldn't last until the 4th anyway. The late rounds are where you take flyers on guys who you think could potentially develop, but that you have no real expectations for. If he becomes a good player? Great. If he doesn't? Well, those players rarely do so whatever.

If you really, truly project a QB to be a future starter, you don't wait until the 4th to take him.

 

If you really took that out of my post, then do you also believe no one ever wins any lottery?

 

Tom Brady, Brad Johnson, Kurt Warner, Matt Hasslebeck and Jake Delhomme all went to Super Bowls. This nonsense about teams having to draft QB's high to win is grossly overblown.

 

Add Brunell, Gannon, Theismann, and Rypien to sealclubber's list. And, of course, Warren Moon went undrafted and is now in the HOF.

 

Not in Houston . . . . *grin*

Rocket River

 

Yes, the only type of quarterbacks that should be drafted high are quarterbacks like Andrew Luck and Peyton Manning.

 

^^^^^^ And what I meant is quarterbacks with the same high level and football IQ as Andrew Luck and Peyton Manning. Those types of quarterbacks should be drafted in the top 5 of the first round.

 

What do these QBs have to do with the idea that teams don't draft QBs low to make them starters?

The Patriots signed Bledsoe to a then record deal of $103mil contract the same time they drafted Brady.

NO had Delhomme for 4 years and then let him go.

GB drafted Hasselback to backup some guy called Brett Farve. He was a throw-in in a trade to Seattle 2 years later.

Rams signed Trent Green to a huge contract the year they signed Warner off the streets.

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Perhaps I'm wrong here. Perhaps the Patriots made Bledsoe the highest paid QB as some sort of misdirection so people wouldn't realize their true purpose was to develop Tom Brady. But I'm going to say that they drafted Brady in the 6th round as a backup QB and potential lottery ticket.