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Tom Penders out as UH basketball coach

Discussion in 'Houston Texans' started by Egghead, Mar 21, 2010.

  1. ryan17wagner

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    Those kids from the Houston-area on the team came via the JUCO route. This city has great basketball recruits just like football. I can't imagine our football team not having Houston-area kids on it.

    The great kids go to Texas, Baylor or TAMU. But there are tons of good basketball players that can be recruited to come to UH.
     
  2. ryan17wagner

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    Penders never got us over the hump, just like Briles. It was a good start, but not enough. Who's legit that's out there that wanted to come here? No one. If 25 of your recruits go to the NBA, that's legit. He took a Tech team to a 30-2 finish and Sweet 16 bid. That's legit.

    We didn't kill momentum when Briles left for Baylor and brought in someone with no head coaching experience.

    I have no doubt Dickey will have better success than Penders.

    EAT 'EM UP!
     
  3. Ziggy

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    Used to be hard to convince em to go to Baylor or TAMU so..
     
  4. Hippieloser

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    Really? Not even a little doubt somewhere in your mind that this might have been a huge mistake?

    You've got faith, ry, I'll give you that!
     
  5. Rip Van Rocket

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    But Houston has to overcome the huge disadvantage of being in CUSA. I know that CUSA does better in basketball than football, but it is still viewed as the minor leagues by many. It will always be extremely difficult for teams like Houston and Rice to consistently attract top level coaches and athletes as long as they play in the minor leagues. I'm very unhappy about this situation, but that's the way it is. Too bad the big 12 took Baylor instead of Houston. I guess Baylor had the connections.
     
  6. ryan17wagner

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    No. He's a proven recruiter.

    I'm like not like everyone who throws a fit that thinks its the end of the world.

    He'll take us back to the NCAA's and get us a win.
     
  7. DonnyMost

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    I can support the team and the coach, but I can't really defend Mack Rhoades or this hire.

    He hasn't had a winning season as a head coach in basketball in 14 years.

    And even then, the winning years prior to that were littered with academic fraud.

    So we have a guy who has never seen legitimate success as a division I head coach.

    Words fail me at how disappointed I am with this hire.

    We can only hope that those 6 years at Okie State made him into one hell of a coach, cause I don't buy any of that crap he did at Tech.
     
  8. rikesh316

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    I am not thrilled about this hire but I am willing to give him a chance. I hear great things about him from Eddie Sutton and some of his former players. He also will likely bring his brother Randall who is a big part of the players UTEP brought in. Also, some talk about Micheal Young and Greg Wise being brought in as assistant coaches.
     
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    At some point, you have to ask yourself: if he's so good, why was he coaching middle school? There are lots of terrible teams out there, and not one of them was interested in him.
     
  10. ryan17wagner

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    There lots of options when it comes to hiring a coach. Mach Rhodes did his homework. Give the guy a chance.

    Because he liked coaching middle school.
     
  11. ryan17wagner

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    The guy can flat our recruit. It's not like big names were knocking down the doors of the HOF to come coach here.

    Give him a chance. BTW, how many game did you go to this year??
     
  12. DonnyMost

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    We're all waiting with bated breath for his recruiting class.

    And wags, don't give me that treatment.

    I don't live in Houston anymore, and I played in the band at every single basketball game (both men's and women's) during my four years at UH, including the few tournaments we were fortune enough to make it to.

    So take that crap elsewhere.
     
  13. ryan17wagner

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    It's not crap. It's a legit question. I see all these ppl crying as if their puppy got ran over by a car and 90% of them didn't go to a single game this year.

    P.S. the band always stops by our alumni tailgate during football season and plays the fight song. The tubas love us.
     
  14. DonnyMost

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    No kidding. It pisses me off too.

    I never marched, Cougar Brass was the funner band to be in :cool:
     
  15. ryan17wagner

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    The University of Houston has made a good choice for their new men's head basketball coach. James Dickey will win. James Dickey will do a lot more than that too. He will do whatever is needed to help rebuild the Cougar's whole basketball operation.

    I am laying that on the line early in this commentary because I keep hearing there are some Cougar fans and backers who are so much against James that they have already formed an anti-Dickey web site.

    That is absurd. Do some homework folks. Cougar Athletic Director Mack Rhoades made a good choice. He did HIS homework. As is the case in any hiring there were other candidates who would possibly have been good hires as well as Dickey. Former UTEP, Texas A&M and Kentucky head coach Billy Gillispie comes to mind. So does Bob Marlin who pulled himself out of deep consideration to move from Sam Houston State to Louisiana-Lafayette. Then there were the top assistants at a couple schools who might have been ripe for picking.

    James Dickey is not a "big name." He is not an "up and comer." Yet, James Dickey's entire career shows he can coach. He can recruit. He can raise money. He is the complete package.

    During his career as head coach at Texas Tech before the new basketball arena was built he was recruiting players to Lubbock good enough to compile a 119-58 record in his first six years. He coached one team to a 30-2 record. He produced players who made it in the NBA. He and his teams were as good as any in the league--first the Southwest Conference and later the early years of the Big 12.

    He was essentially forced out at Texas Tech when Bob Knight became available and interested and Athletic Director Gerald Myers decided to bring in his friend. The timing was good because Tech had lost nine basketball scholarships as a result of some players being involved in an academic scandal which touched more athletes than just basketball players. Without the ability to fill a full roster, Dickey's teams struggled to a 47-66 mark during his final years before Knight took over.

    http://www.foxsportshouston.com/pag...d-hire-for-UH=1&blockID=208284&;;;feedID=3803
     
  16. ryan17wagner

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    Here's the rest of the article I forgot to post:





    Out of head coaching since the end of the 2001 season, Dickey was not out of coaching. He served on the staff of Eddie Sutton at Oklahoma State and was far more involved than most assistants--especially during Sutton's final years. Since that information is second hand I won't go into detail. Those close to the program or who know the Sutton story may know to what I am referring. The point is that James Dickey has been far more than just an assistant coach since he left Tech.

    Now, Billy Gillispie would have been a new coach with more "flash." He, too, has solid coaching credentials. He also has personal black marks against him for contract jumping, apparent alcohol abuse and reluctance to play the "political game".

    There are no similar concerns with James Dickey. He was a solid head coach and a very loyal assistant. He is a very good man. And let me tell you Cougar fans, his teams will be very entertaining to watch. They will win. He will get the University back on the right track. Oh yes, he will recruit.

    Of all the candidates for the job the public is aware of James Dickey was the most complete package. He had more plusses going for him than anyone else. Mack Rhoades and Cougar administrators just added things up and Dickey's name was the right choice.

    So, on his 56th birthday James Dickey returns to major college coaching. Welcome back, James. Cougar fans--even those who are so irate about the hire--will be changing their tune once they see what Dickey and his new assistants can do.
     
  17. Cannonball

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    I marched a year and was in the Brass a year. Brass was definitely more fun. I'd show up well before tip off and shoot around in Hofheinz until the guys came out to windex the backboards and the teams began warming up.
     
  18. Scientific1

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    This is beyond me. Who actually gives a flying EEFFF if Gillispie would have left after a year. Im sure Dickie would have still been there after next year, I mean come on, UH had to snag him up before some other university came a knocking.

    I didnt attend UH, I never went to UH games, but as a resident of Houston it would have lured me into seeing what kind of team Billy would have brought. Even for one year. So what if Gillispie would have used UH as a stepping stool to another gig after one season, he would have probably sold more seats and brought more talent than Dickie could try his first three. Its like Memphis is now after Calipari left. Sure they're not the same team when he was there, but he put Memphis on the map.

    Supporters can paint this any way they want, but if they had the shot of hiring Gillispie for even year, they were morons not to take it.
     
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    If Dickey can get UH to the dance more times than not, imagine what kind of fan base that will create for UH Bball. It was great seeing fans watching UH this year in the tourny. At this point, I don't care what kind of fans watch UH, as long as they watch. Bandwagon fans, fans from the buzz of top local high school recruits, all are welcome! Just fill up the gym
     
  20. ryan17wagner

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    No, you're a moron for suggesting this. It does no good to have a coach for one year. It scares off recruits because the situation is unstable. Think before you post and act like you know sports.
     

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