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TOM DELAY INDICTED

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by MadMax, Sep 28, 2005.

  1. geeimsobored

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    It's amazing that Tom Delay didn't learn from the mistakes of the Democrats during the 80s and 90s. They ran the house and senate and slowly got busted by stupid stuff like this.

    Oh well, too bad...
     
  2. tigermission1

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    Wait, Rove came to the defense of DeLay? I am shocked!
     
  3. wnes

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    I disagree. Nixon was mainly guilty of the cover-up, by using many tactics that was too harsh for the weak-hearted (shall I say naive) general public to stomach at the time. The appearance of "fixing election" is, IMO, misleading. Nixon beat McGovern in a landslide (61% to 38% popular votes, 520 to 17 electoral votes), Watergate or not. His personal involvement with the break-in is still unproven to this date. Even if he were, the effect was inconsequential. It would be like Nixon tried to get an A+ on an exam, knowing he was guaranteed an A.
     
  4. KingCheetah

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    Poor Tom Delay. At least he has a career in pest control when he gets out.
     
  6. Deckard

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    Couldn't disagree more. I voted against Nixon in that landslide you were talking about. Everyone, except Nixon, it seems, knew he was going to win. The man wanted to make sure. And to say that he knew nothing about it... excuse me, but I think that's pure BS.

    And what on earth does the margin of his victory have to do with trying to insure a win, in other words, fix the election? Using your reasoning, if a passenger on an airliner was murdered during a flight, and then the plane crashed, does that make the murderer any less guilty? Because everyone died anyway?

    There are much better analogies, I'm sure, but it is exactly this kind of attitude towards corruption of our electoral process that is a major part of what's wrong with our system today. One has come to expect politicians to lie, to cheat and to be corrupt. Is that it? So if everyone does it, it's OK? It's that kind of perception by the public that has led to politicians being elected by a small percentage of the electorate, because so many people just stay home in disgust, or simply because they think it won't make a difference if they vote or not.

    All the blood, sweat, and tears, to borrow from Winston, that this country has fought and bled for, on battlefields, in the courts, and through constitutional amendments to insure the right to vote for all... an ongoing struggle that's not ended, a struggle joined at the hip with the struggle for civil rights for all Americans, is just a waste of time?

    BS. And some people wonder who the liberals and moderates are around here. Look in the mirror.



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  7. gwayneco

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    He just hates conservative America.

    Here's an idea for hurricane relief. Let's get all the liberals in America to make a donation in exchange for sucking Ronnie's manhood.
     
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    "hand me the keys, you mother****er"
     
  9. KingCheetah

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    House Speaker Gib Lewis, Attorney General Jim Mattox, and Supreme Court Justice Don Yarbrough all Democrats would strongly disagree with you gwayneco.

    Perhaps you should attempt some research before you spout off again.
     
  10. rhadamanthus

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    [magic 8ball]NOT LIKELY[/magic 8ball]
     
  11. FranchiseBlade

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    Then why has he gone after more Democrats than Republicans?
     
  12. gwayneco

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    How many Democratic members of Congress has he gone after?
     
  13. Major

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    How many Republican Supreme Court Justices has he gone after? Are you saying that anyone who goes after a member of Congress, unless they go after one in each party, is partisan? Perhaps that Democratic members of Texas' Congress haven't done anything illegal in his jurisdiction...

    He even turned *himself* in for a campaign finance violation.
     
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    I remember him going after Gib Lewis and I still can't believe it happened. He took down the most powerful man in State government! Like him or not, Ronnie Earl is a bulldog, even when he goes after Democrats.
     
  15. El_Conquistador

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    The goal here was to force Delay to step down from power, if only temporarily. Delay has had charges brought against him since 1993 – they’ve all been baseless and have been dismissed. Earle has been sniffing around for 2 years trying to find dirt on Delay. Nothing turned up. Now this sham is brought before the nation. It’s a total joke.

    Earle once indicted Kay Bailey Hutchison and that proved to be a totally bogus indictment. Dick Deguerin will be representing Delay. Deguerin is the same lawyer that shamed Earle back when he brought bogus charges against Hutchison. Earle is a proven partisan attention seeker. Earle is a democrat in a democratic county (Travis) who has a political axe to grind. Sure he’s indicted democrats in the past – but that was back when Texas was democrat controlled and Earle was attempting to make a name for himself. Earle went after conservative democrats, not liberal democrats. There were no republicans around back then. Anyone that points to indicting democrats as proof of Earle's neutrality is politically ignorant. These charges are laughably thin and will lead to absolutely no punishment. None. Delay has been Earle’s target for years, as he is a valuable political prize – especially after the recent Congressional redistricting success. This entire event is a political stunt attempting to smear a highly effective Republican Congressman. Reading the liberals’ knee-jerk, poorly informed responses in this thread only validates that statement.

    I realize these are desperate times for the Democrats. They literally have nothing right now. They are a party in disarray with no leadership. They are left with nothing but desperate pleas for attention such as this – a smear campaign with no intention other than to strike back at the politicians who have whipped them into submission over the past decade.
     
  16. nyquil82

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    what's a conservative democrat? you make it sound like its one that engages in illegal activity.

    I actually couldn't care much about this, I don't celebrate when the people in power are suspected of doing illegal activity when they should be running the country instead. Most importantly, people in positions like Delay should know better that people want his head on a stick so it was his idiot fault to get caught.
     
  17. pippendagimp

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    So the Exterminator is set to be terminated now....the Hunter has become the Hunted ;)
     
  18. slickvik69

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    Yesssssssssss what a great day for America. Howard Dean just ripped him (and the entire Republican party) apart on NightLine, it was rather amusing.
     
  19. FranchiseBlade

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    The liberals response is poorly informed, and you are the one trying to claim that when Earl went after Democrats it was because there were no Republicans around?

    There was a time when Texas was a one party state, but it was before Earl was in power and investigating people.

    It also is laughable that folks like you, and Delay try and say there is no merit to Earl's charges, but he had to show the jury something. Whatever he showed them brought about an indictment. It isn't just Earl's word that brought it about.
     
  20. FranchiseBlade

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    I think Major already responded to this, but I will just second what he said. Why do the Democrats he went after not count? Only members of congress count? That doesn't make sense. He has gone after both Democrats and Republicans, but only one side is whining about it being partisan.
     

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