I'm glad she was dropped, when I read the script, I could only picture Jenniffer Connelly. Especially since the character was supposed to be older than Bruce by 2 years.
This statement is total bullsh!t. Lexapro helped me kick depression and anxiety..... Some people NEED drugs to help them. Its not as simple as just "dealing with it". I tried everything to get me back on track besides using drugs, but in the end Lexapro helped me get on track and stay there. Now Im the happiest Ive been in many years.
When I saw the flim last week the audience laughed every time she came on the screen. I don't think that was the response the director wanted.
No offense but this is very ignorant. There's been study after study that has proven chemicals like serotonin and norepinephrine are linked to depression. It's easy to just say depression is a personal problem and taking meds is a cop out if you've never had it. But there are millions of documented cases of lives saved from suicide and families kept together from these drugs. Yes there are people out there who want to blame their failures on depression and pop pills like candy when the only thing wrong with them is fear, laziness, etc. But that doesn't mean it's true for everyone or even the majority of people.
In other news, Steven Spielberg is debating on the best tape to use on Cruise's mouth. So far, "duct" is in the lead.
Who is Xenu? http://www.xenu.net/archive/leaflet/xenuleaf.htm I'm going to tell you a story. Are you sitting comfortably? Right, then I'll begin. Once upon a time (75 million years ago to be more precise) there was an alien galactic ruler named Xenu. Xenu was in charge of all the planets in this part of the galaxy including our own planet Earth, except in those days it was called Teegeeack. Xenu the alien ruler Now Xenu had a problem. All of the 76 planets he controlled were overpopulated. Each planet had on average 178 billion people. He wanted to get rid of all the overpopulation so he had a plan. Xenu took over complete control with the help of renegades to defeat the good people and the Loyal Officers. Then with the help of psychiatrists he called in billions of people for income tax inspections where they were instead given injections of alcohol and glycol mixed to paralyse them. Then they were put into space planes that looked exactly like DC8s (except they had rocket motors instead of propellers). These DC8 space planes then flew to planet Earth where the paralysed people were stacked around the bases of volcanoes in their hundreds of billions. When they had finished stacking them around then H-bombs were lowered into the volcanoes. Xenu then detonated all the H-bombs at the same time and everyone was killed. The story doesn't end there though. Since everyone has a soul (called a "thetan" in this story) then you have to trick souls into not coming back again. So while the hundreds of billions of souls were being blown around by the nuclear winds he had special electronic traps that caught all the souls in electronic beams (the electronic beams were sticky like fly-paper). After he had captured all these souls he had them packed into boxes and taken to a few huge cinemas. There all the souls had to spend days watching special 3D motion pictures that told them what life should be like and many confusing things. In this film they were shown false pictures and told they were God, The Devil and Christ. In the story this process is called "implanting". When the films ended and the souls left the cinema these souls started to stick together because since they had all seen the same film they thought they were the same people. They clustered in groups of a few thousand. Now because there were only a few living bodies left they stayed as clusters and inhabited these bodies. As for Xenu, the Loyal Officers finally overthrew him and they locked him away in a mountain on one of the planets. He is kept in by a force-field powered by an eternal battery and Xenu is still alive today. That is the end of the story. And so today everyone is full of these clusters of souls called "body thetans". And if we are to be a free soul then we have to remove all these "body thetans" and pay lots of money to do so. And the only reason people believe in God and Christ was because it was in the film their body thetans saw 75 million years ago. Well what did you think of that story? What? You thought it was a stupid story? Well so do we. However, this story is the core belief in the religion known as Scientology.* If people knew about this story then most people would never get involved in it. This story is told to you when you reach one of their secret levels called OT III. After that you are supposed to telepathically communicate with these body thetans to make them go away. You have to pay a lot of money to get to this level and do this (or you have to work very hard for the organisation on extremely low pay for many years). We are telling you this story as a warning. If you become involved with Scientology then we would like you to do so with your eyes open and fully aware of the sort of material it contains. Most of the Scientologists who work in their Dianetics* centres and so called "Churches" of Scientology do not know this story since they are not allowed to hear it until they reach the secret "upper" levels of Scientology. It may take them many years before they reach this level if they ever do. The ones who do know it are forced to keep it a secret and not tell it to those people who are joining Scientology. Now you have read this you know their big secret. Don't let us put you off joining though.
YESSSS!!! Anyway, the whole Tom Cruise meltdown thing is interesting to me because he came across quite sane when he was on “Inside the Actors Studio.” Granted, James Lipton’s questions consist mostly of things like “How awesome are you and why?”, but still you’d think some of this insanity would have slipped through …
And this is new news in exactly what way?? Cruise has been off his rocker for years...the sanest thing he has ever done is bagged him a young hottie to satisfy his midlife crisis.
Poor Katie! Boo hoo hoo! She's not a very good actress in my opinion. She needs to go back to playing the dumb girl on a TV series. I have not seen the latest Batman movie but I hear she was cast in the role of attorney. That's believable. As far as her switching her religion to Scientology, I'm sure she'll just do whatever Tom wants her to do so she can impress him. Hell, she treated Tom like a religion growing up so this isn't much of a leap. b****.
Great, now this thread has this going through MY mind: "Scientology gon' make me lose my mind. Up in HERE! Up in HERE!"
I think it's part of the religion... How Can Scientology Help Me With... Answers to Drugs? To say that drugs have become the major affliction of society is not stating the situation too strongly. No sector of life is untouched by this epidemic. Crime and violence are the most obvious byproducts, but amorality, aborted educations and, indeed, ruined lives are no less serious and just as widespread. And the problem is not limited to street drugs; the effects of medical and psychiatric drugs, whether painkillers, tranquilizers or “antidepressants,” are as disastrous. L. Ron Hubbard addressed this problem, not with the objective of resolving the physical ills of individuals but as a continuation of his quest to free man as a spirit and handle, along this route, any barrier that needed to be resolved. Drugs were such a barrier. Until Mr. Hubbard developed a workable drug rehabilitation program, there was no solution. Psychiatric-inspired programs had many more failures than successes and some only created worse addictions. Other people, more well-intentioned, found that good intentions weren’t enough. They lacked a technology that worked. Mr. Hubbard’s program provides that technology. From helping the person discover why he took drugs in the first place, to eliminating the mental and spiritual damage done by drugs, to detoxifying the body of long-term drug residues, to providing the person with tools that will enable him to stay off drugs for good, it is without doubt the most thorough and effective program in the world. Today, for the first time, as hundreds of thousands will attest, those addicted to drugs and alcohol can free themselves of this tyranny and face life with renewed vigor and hope. This section contains some of the elementary principles of this program and provides the first real understanding of substance abuse problems. http://www.scientologyhandbook.org/sh7.htm Interesting reading...
LOL! Anyways, in regards to Cruise, he's definitely making one of the biggest mistakes in his life. He can believe in Scientology all he wants, I don't give a crap...but the fact that he recently consistently brings it out in public already makes me leary of him...I mean, his recent 'fanatic' behavior is without a doubt gonna impact my view on him IF I watch his next movie. I'm sure in his eyes, he's doing the 'right' thing, standing up for his religion and what have you, but hey...there is a thing as too much information.
LAUER: TOM CRUISE CREATED A FIRESTORM WHEN HE CRITICIZED BROOKE SHIELDS FOR REVEALING THAT SHE WENT INTO THERAPY AND TOOK ANTIDEPRESSANTS TO DEAL WITH HER POST PARTUM DEPRESSION. AS A SCIENTOLGIST, HE DOESN'T BELIEVE IN PSYCHIATRIC MEDICINE. I ASKED HIM ABOUT HIS COMMENTS. CRUISE: i've never agreed with psychiatry, ever. Before I was a Scientologist I never agreed with psychiatry. and when i started studying the history of psychiatry, i understood more and more why i didn't believe in psychology. //And as far as the Brooke Shields thing is, look. You gotta understand, I really care about Brooke Shields. I-- I think here's a-- a-- a wonderful and talented woman. And-- I wanna see her do well. And I know that-- psychiatry is-- is a pseudo science. MATT LAUER: But-- but Tom, if she said that this particular thing helped her feel better, whether it was the antidepressant or going to a counselor or psychiatrist, isn't that enough? // TOM CRUISE: Matt, you have to understand this. Here we are today where I talk out against drugs and psychiatric abuses of electric shocking people (PH), okay, against their will, of drugging children with them not knowing the effects of these drugs. Do you know what Aderol (PH) is? Do you know Ritalin? Do you know now that Ritalin is a street drug? Do you understand that? MATT LAUER: The difference is-- (OVERTALK) TOM CRUISE: No, no, Matt. MATT LAUER: This wasn't against her will, though. TOM CRUISE: Matt-- Matt, Matt, Matt-- MATT LAUER: But this wasn't against her will. TOM CRUISE: Matt, I'm-- Matt, I'm asking you a question. MATT LAUER: I understand there's abuse of all of these things. TOM CRUISE: No, you see. Here's the problem. You don't know the history of psychiatry. I do.// MATT LAUER: //aren't there examples, and might not Brooke Shields be an example, of someone who benefited from one of those drugs? TOM CRUISE: all it does is mask the problem, Matt. And if you understand the history of it, it masks the problem. That's what it does. That's all it does. You're not getting to the reason why. There is no such thing as a chemical imbalance. (OVERTALK) MATT LAUER: So, postpartum depression to you is-- TOM CRUISE: Matt-- MATT LAUER: --kind of a-- TOM CRUISE: --don't-- MATT LAUER: --little psychological gook-- TOM CRUISE: That-- MATT LAUER: --googley-gook? TOM CRUISE: --no. No. I did not say that. MATT LAUER: I'm just asking what you-- what would you call it? TOM CRUISE: No. No. Abs-- Matt, that is-- the-- post-- now-- now, you're talking about two different things. MATT LAUER: But that's what she went on the-- TOM CRUISE: No. MATT LAUER: --antidepressant for. TOM CRUISE: But what happens, the antidepressant, all it does is mask the problem. There's ways of vitamins and through exercise and various things. I'm not saying that that isn't real. That's not what I'm saying. That's an alteration of what-- what I'm saying. I'm saying that drugs aren't the answer, these drugs are very dangerous. They're mind-altering, anti-psychotic drugs. And there are ways of doing it without that so that we don't end up in a brave new world. // the thing that I'm saying about Brooke is that there's misinformation, okay. And she doesn't understand the history of psychiatry. She-- she doesn't understand in the same way that you don't understand it, Matt. // MATT LAUER: But a little bit what you're saying Tom is, you say you want people to do well. But you want them do to well by taking the road that you approve of, as opposed to a road that may work for them. TOM CRUISE: No, no, I'm not. MATT LAUER: Well, if antidepressants work for Brooke Shields, why isn't that okay? TOM CRUISE: I-- I disagree with it. And I think that there's a higher and better quality of life. And I think that promoting for me personally, see, you're saying what, I can't discuss what I wanna discuss? MATT LAUER: No. You absolutely can. TOM CRUISE: I know. But-- but Matt, you're going in and saying that-- that I can't discuss this. MATT LAUER: I'm only asking, isn't there a possibility that-- do-- do you examine the possibility that these things do work for some people? That yes, there are abuses. And yes, maybe they've gone too far in certain areas. Maybe there are too many kids on Ritalin. Maybe electric shock-- TOM CRUISE: Too many kids on Ritalin? Matt. MATT LAUER: I'm just saying. But-- but aren't there-- TOM CRUISE: Matt. MATT LAUER: --examples where it works? TOM CRUISE: Matt. Matt, Matt, you don't even-- you're glib. You don't even know what Ritalin is.// //if you start talking about chemical imbalance, you have to evaluate and read the research papers on how they came up with these theories, Matt, okay. That's what I've done. Then you go and you say where's-- where's the medical test? Where's the blood test that says how much Ritalin you're supposed to get? MATT LAUER: You're-- you're-- it's very impressive to listen to you. Because clearly, you've done the homework. And-- and you know the subject. TOM CRUISE: And you should. MATT LAUER: And-- and-- TOM CRUISE: And you should do that also. MATT LAUER: And-- TOM CRUISE: Because just knowing people who are on Ritalin isn't enough. //you should be a little bit more responsible in knowing really-- MATT LAUER: I'm not prescribing Ritalin, Tom. And I'm not asking-- TOM CRUISE: Well-- MATT LAUER: --anyone else to do it. I'm simply saying-- (OVERTALK) TOM CRUISE: Well, you are. You're saying-- MATT LAUER: I know some people who seem to have been helped by it. TOM CRUISE: I-- but you're saying-- but you-- like-- this is a very important issue. MATT LAUER: I couldn't agree more. TOM CRUISE: It's very-- and you know what? You're here on the Today Show. MATT LAUER: Right. TOM CRUISE: And to talk about it in a way of saying, "Well, isn't it okay," and being reasonable about it when you don't know and I do, I think that you should be a little bit more responsible in knowing what it is. MATT LAUER: But-- TOM CRUISE: Because you-- you communicate to people. MATT LAUER: But you're now telling me that your experiences with the people I know, which are zero, are more important than my experiences. TOM CRUISE: What do you mean by that? MATT LAUER: You're telling me what's worked for people I know or hasn't worked for people I know. // i'm telling you i've lived with these people and they're better. TOM CRUISE: So, you're-- you're advocating it. MATT LAUER: I am not. I'm telling you in their case-- (LAUGHTER) (OVERTALK) MATT LAUER: In their individual case, it worked. I am not gonna go out and say-- TOM CRUISE: Matt-- MATT LAUER: --"Get your kids on Ritalin. It's the cure-all-- TOM CRUISE: Matt, Matt. MATT LAUER: --and the end-all." TOM CRUISE: Matt, but here's the point. what is the ideal scene for life TOM CRUISE: Okay. Ideal scene is someone not having to take anti-psychotic drugs. MATT LAUER: I would agree. TOM CRUISE: Okay. So, now you look at-- and you go okay. A-- a departure from that ideal scene is someone taking drugs, okay. And then you go, okay. What is the theory and the science behind that, that justifies that? MATT LAUER: Let me take this more general, 'cause I think you and I can go around in circles on this for awhile. And i respect your opinion ... MATT LAUER: Do you want more people to understand Scientology? Is that-- would that be a goal of yours? TOM CRUISE: You know what? I-- absolutely. Of course, you know. And people-- MATT LAUER: How do you go about that? TOM CRUISE: You just communicate about it. And the important thing is, like you and I talk about it, whether it's-- okay, if I wanna know something, I go and find out. /Because I don't talk about things that I don't understand. I'll say, you know what? I'm not so sure about that. I'll go find more information about it so I can-- I can come to an opinion based on-- on the information that I have. MATT LAUER: You-- you're so passionate about it. And I'm-- TOM CRUISE: I'm passionate about learning. I'm passionate about life, Matt.
Reading that interview brought back memories of a discussion (arguement) I had with my cousin, who is a Scientologist, a few years ago. She was going on about evil psychiatric drugs. I was telling her about my personal experience as a special ed teacher working with children with severe mental disorders and the dramatic improvement I had seen when they were properly medicated. Then she threw out the line that Cruise was trying to get out about "No one's ever had a Ritalin deficiency." I asked her if she thought all medicinal drugs were bad. She said no. I asked her if she thought anesthetics were beneficial. She said yes. I asked her if that was because people had an anesthetic deficiency. She didn't have an answer.
I think the point Cruise is making is legitimate. And it seems to me his point is is that people are supposed to be happy and sad, not stuck in the middle, which is what an antidepressant does. A = sad/depressed B = no emotion C = happy Crusie will agree with Matt that B is better than A, but Cruise is saying that the person should be able to get to C. There is no reason that they should be stuck in B. Life is not B. Most life is A,B and C and since life has optimized itself over a billion years, antidepressants are falling way short of what they should be. Matt has a point. He is correct. But he's looking no firther than the answer given to him by the antidepressant, whereas Crusie believes he should be.
I think that...if Katie Holmes had just accepted my marriage proposal....after i'd ended my fling with Penelope Cruz....after I'd been married to Nichole Kidmann....after being married to Mimi Rogers...I might be a bit behind on reading my back-issues of Psychiatry Today. I don't look to Tom to be my guidance issues deeper then fast cars/planes/bartenders etc. He makes good flicks. He ensures pretty girls are on the covers of the supermarket tabloids. No more.
One of the stranger things in life is that we tend to hate people who are 100% happy. We seem to have nothing to say to them. Nothing to share. We do however, seem to bond with those people who share their sadness, or who temporarily gain happiness like Robert Horry. I would be interested to know if their is some kind of psychiatric study on that effect (if I have perceived it correctly).
reading the transcript, that interview sounds horrible! i have not seen cruise on tv lately so i've "missed" out but i'm glad. odd ball...
