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[Toledo Blade] Good article on Jim Jackson's thoughts on trade, offseason, etc.

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Matador, Jul 9, 2004.

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  1. derrick

    derrick Member

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    I think the contention that JJ missed some game winning shots last year is true. However, I have to say he was one of the most dependable guys last year. Night in and night out he produced. I think he will have a better year this year. Every remaining Rocket from last year will step it up because we all know what this team is capable of. JJ is tha MAN!!!








    Jeff Van Gundy is the best thing that ever happened to the ROX.
     
    #21 derrick, Jul 9, 2004
  2. meh

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    While I agree in regards to Barry and JJ, I'm not sure about Howard. The guy has NEVER been a role player. He was given a $105 mil contract for most of his career, and averaged points more than Steve Francis last season. That said, JJ had been a go-to guy for much of his career too, and he made the adjustments, first with the Kings and now with the Rockets. I think Howard can do it too. But you never know what can happen when he starts taking less shots and asked to play more defense.
     
    #22 meh, Jul 9, 2004
  3. AroundTheWorld

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    Fortunately, he does not have a $ 105 mio. contract anymore! :)

    I wish he was more of a 14/11 guy than a 17/7 guy, but perhaps he can adjust under JVG, playing with Yao and T-Mac.
     
    #23 AroundTheWorld, Jul 9, 2004
  4. daNasty

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    Mostly it was his decision to move to 10 different team.
     
    #24 daNasty, Jul 9, 2004
  5. xcharged

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    You said it...Corey Blount for example

    six years, $41 million
    averaging 10.3 points and 7.2 rebounds per game


    WTF?
     
    #25 xcharged, Jul 9, 2004
  6. hooroo

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    the thing is jj carried a bad rep. regardless whether it was true or not. what is interesting is that j. howard has the same rep as a locker room stirrer.
     
    #26 hooroo, Jul 9, 2004
  7. bfunw

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    3 years for 7.3 million? That MUST be a typo.
     
    #27 bfunw, Jul 9, 2004
  8. torrr

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    I like JJ, but damn, he was guaranteed 1-2 turnovers per game last year because he'd be out of bounds when we passed to him on the wing. How many times did that happen?
     
    #28 torrr, Jul 9, 2004
  9. Preston27

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    Fixed that for you.
     
    #29 Preston27, Jul 9, 2004
  10. wireonfire

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    I think you meant Mark Blount. ;)

    Actually he was averaging double-double the second half of the season. You know decent big men are in big demand in this league.
     
    #30 wireonfire, Jul 9, 2004
  11. daoshi

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    Nap, mostly he was cut by the team, the Heats, the Kings, etc.
     
    #31 daoshi, Jul 9, 2004
  12. madmonkey37

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    I dont think any team cut him, he wasnt resigned when he was a free agent a few times.

    from nba.com
    Selected after junior season by the Dallas Mavericks in the first round (fourth pick overall) of the 1992 NBA Draft...Traded by the Mavericks with Sam Cassell, Chris Gatling, George McCloud and Eric Montross to the New Jersey Nets for Shawn Bradley, Ed O'Bannon, Robert Pack and Khalid Reeves on 2/17/97...Traded by the Nets with Eric Montross and the draft rights to Tim Thomas and Anthony Parker to the Philadelphia 76ers for Michael Cage, Lucious Harris, Don MacLean and the draft rights to Keith Van Horn on 6/27/97...Traded by the 76ers with Clarence Weatherspoon to the Golden State Warriors for Joe Smith and Brian Shaw on 2/17/98...Signed as a free agent by the Portland Trail Blazers on 2/2/99 ... Traded by the Trail Blazers with Isaiah Rider to the Atlanta Hawks for Steve Smith and Ed Gray on 8/2/99...Traded by the Hawks with Anthony Johnson and Larry Robinson to the Cleveland Cavaliers for Brevin Knight on 1/2/01...Signed as a free agent by the Miami Heat on 12/2/01...Signed as a free agent by the Sacramento Kings on 11/30/02 ... Signed as a free agent by the Houston Rockets on 9/30/03.


    It doesnt say he was released anywhere.
     
    #32 madmonkey37, Jul 9, 2004
  13. StupidMoniker

    StupidMoniker I lost a bet

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    For next season can we get him one of those dog collars that zaps you every time you cross the boundry line, so maybe he won't step out of bounds 2-3 times per game?
     
    #33 StupidMoniker, Jul 10, 2004
  14. dharocks

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    Steve Kerr had an interesting take on this. He said that guys who weren't career 3pt shooters (JJ was mostly a slasher and post-up guard early in his career... And a 4 turnover per game player, to boot) aren't as familiar with the sidelines and 3pt arc as guys who were running to spot up in the corners for their entire careers.

    Hopefully JJ will get better.
     
    #34 dharocks, Jul 10, 2004
  15. Rocket River

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    Not even in the top 10


    Rocket River
    1. Hakeem
    2. Rudy
    3. Drexler
    4. Cassell
    5. Horry
    6. Otis Thorpe
    7. Kenny Smith
    8. Vernon Maxwell
    9. Less Alexander
    10. Ralph Sampson

    . . . .

    100. Pig Miller
    101. JVG [ok joking here but not about the top 10]
     
    #35 Rocket River, Jul 10, 2004
  16. defire

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    This is exactly what I want to hear from JJ. Thanks for the post.
    HE should be the team leader next season. Not Yao, not T-mac.
     
    #36 defire, Jul 10, 2004
  17. YaoFan

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    Matador are/were you in Toledo? I spent four years there. nice town.
     
    #37 YaoFan, Jul 10, 2004
  18. dandorotik

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    No Mo? Leading Rockets to their 1st trip to the Finals? I think he's gotta be top 5 easily.
     
    #38 dandorotik, Jul 10, 2004
  19. TL

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    SamIam, Horry, OT, KENNY SMITH????, MadMax...

    all these guys are better for the Rox than Yao??
     
    #39 TL, Jul 10, 2004
  20. dharocks

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    They won a ring (two in some cases). Yao hasn't even gotten out of the first round.

    I would rank Murph, Moses, and Big E ahead of a lot of those guys though.
     
    #40 dharocks, Jul 10, 2004
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