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Today's Players vs Yesterday's Players

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by hlmbasketball, Feb 9, 2023.

  1. cmoak1982

    cmoak1982 Member
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    I’m not against participation trophies, I encourage all kids and teens to be involved in sport. But that doesn’t mean you have to devalue competition and fighting through adversity.

    The biggest complaints I hear from club/high school/junior Olympic level coaches are that kids want the easy way out, parents have too much control, laziness, too much of a social aspect and Safesport/Watch dog operations being weaponized.
     
  2. Rokman

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    When you have as much money as these guys what the hell do you care if you lose or not, you're still getting paid.
     
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  4. fchowd0311

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    A story as old as time. Older generations saying the newer generation is lazier.
     
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  5. cmoak1982

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    This is another aspect I think. No pride in result, all about the money and image. It’s pretty prevalent in US culture
     
  6. fchowd0311

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    Lol. NBA players in the 90s were living the high life also man.


    Maybe younger generations have a maturity level where they can be ultra competitive while immediately shutting it off after the need to compete in a game setting and just not be psychopaths to their peers?
     
  7. cmoak1982

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    That’s a big assumption for one. 90s players were cordial to their peers off court, doesn’t mean they wanted to go team up with them and not beat them.
    Those two things aren’t mutually exclusive.
     
  8. daywalker02

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    One handshake or hug is alright.

    Two hugs are too much.

    Also try to keep in mind, these players genuinely like each other.

    Jordan and Kobe were sort of loners.

    As long as they compete on the court, who am I to say what is what.
     
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    I've had 2 sons play college ball. One in college currently. They both played AAU. I know first hand from dealing with a bunch of of new school athletes that the seriousness of competition is in decline.

    I went to a track meet in Beaumont Texas a few years ago, and to my horror, kids that were behind in their races just stopped running. Just quit and would walk off of the track without finishing the race. Boys and girls. I saw the younger coaches pleading with them to finish the races, but they got waved off. I had never seen that before.

    I saw young basketball players cursing out their coaches and calling them dumb or stupid because they aren't getting enough shots. The young coaches just sit there and take it.

    When I would bring up being firm with them I was told that those days were gone and that the toxic male thing is something of the past. So I made sure that my son's played with heart and effort no matter the score, or conditions of the game. And they excelled.

    The pouting when they miss shots or not getting back on D started because the younger coaches are too afraid to correct these players because if they do they will go to another team.

    I would rather have the toxic or boomer label than to accept that acting like a little b*tch is something that is just ok and no one address it out of fear of some snot nose punk getting angry and storming off, stomping his feet.
     
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  10. apollo33

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    Being friends is important now a days. Thats literally how free agents decide to join eachother, or why certain players go to certain teams.
     
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    I don't care for anecdotes.
     
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    Most of what is happening in society CAN be explained by biochemistry...

    Lead-based tableware doomed the Roman Empire, also...
     
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  13. BaselineFade

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    LOL. Cool bro. Just sharing.
     
  14. Os Trigonum

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    lol
     
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    You see some kids give up in a track and field race and comment on an entire generation. Ya it tells me more about you.
     
  16. DaDakota

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    You know what you call players who are having fun while losing?

    Losers.

    DD
     
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  17. BaselineFade

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    I only gave 2 anecdotes. I could write about this for hours. Its across the board. But if you want to make it perisomal, just let me know. We can go there.
     
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  18. Os Trigonum

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    you're dealing with the person who ceaselessly regales us with tales from his time spent with the Marines. I think he can out-anecdote you. :D
     
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    We can go to the land of invertebrates?
     
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  20. fchowd0311

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    Anecdotes that back up statistical correlations and trends are useful to understand a situation. For example a anecdote about a story of a trans person commiting suicide is useful as it shows a situation that happens commonly in that demographic so we can understand a case study of something that does happen often and is a problem.

    Anecdotes about lazy children are anecdotes as old as time. Which implies humans every generation since the beginning of time have gotten lazier which doesn't make sense given sociatial progress.
     

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