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to steve fans why do u like him?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by sup123, Jan 12, 2004.

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  1. canoner2002

    canoner2002 Contributing Member

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    I think the original post was asking for elaboration why you think SF is the best player, and more importantly, why you like him considering how much he is getting paid.

    To me, he is a good player with physical talents, not very smart, not a great leader, and overpaid.
     
  2. Charvo

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    I like Steve for his athleticism and excitement he brings, but that doesn't mean squat as far as winning championships since I think Stevie would be a black sheep on the Kings. Mike Bibby is a much better player for a championship-minded team. I forecast a major falling out between Steve and Van Gundy probably around the 3rd year of Van Gundy's tenure. They might start yelling at each other on the court. Yao will be watching from afar though because I think he'll ask to be traded to another team soon. He'll just sit back in his recliner with a nice cold drink and watch Steve and Van Gundy duke it out on the sidelines in an epic power struggle.
     
  3. Yetti

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    I like Steve because he is the leader of our Team 'The Houston Rockets'He is one of my favourite players although I can see there is much improvement to be made, if he is going to be all that he can be.
     
  4. SamFisher

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    Because I root for teams and not players. I grew up in Houston, hence I became a Rocket fan. Pretty simple equation and one that likely holds true for many if not most posters here.
     
  5. tierre_brown

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    Steve Francis is exciting to watch. May not be the smartest, but he used to get the crowd at the Compaq Center out of their seats with his moves/dunks. But of course, I'm a Rox fan first, so I can't answer this question...
     
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    same here!
     
  7. notcool

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    Hmm...so it implies those people also liked Moochie and Ammachi ...

    SF is like a hollywood action movie with dramatic visual effects and predictable story. However, it usually has little chance of winning the Oscar.
     
  8. tierre_brown

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    Houstone posted a good video of Steve Francis's highlights. Looking back on those days, I miss the excitement that Steve brought coming to the Rox. Not only did he bring crossovers galore and thunderous dunks, he brought us the hope that in a few years, another championship banner would be hanging from the rafters. Now, another "savior" has come to Houston in the form of Yao Ming and we've all turned against our previous hopeful Steve Francis. But I still remember how big a coup acquiring him from Vancouver was, and he is still one of my favorite players to watch.

    Anyway, if you look at the link Houstone provides, there's a lot of backcuts and screens and whatnot in the video. I admit that there were plenty of plays in there when I thought, "dammit, stevie, just pass the ball!" But some of the sets that led to a backdoor alleyoop were created by cutters and screens.

    My question is, why does Van Gundy not implement this? I realize that Yao is the focal point of our offense, but that does not mean other players can't cut and move on the floor. When Yao is off the floor, our post player is MoT. I've noticed that he does not pass about 80% of the time once he starts his motion of backing it in, so backcutting would be useless unless he learned how to pass. But Yao is a skilled passer; he's also 7'5". He should be able to see the lanes/cutters very well.

    I know Gundy is a defensive specialist, but why does he not tinker with the offense? A few little adjustments here and there could work wonders for the team.

    (Just thought I'd throw this out in this thread because I didn't want to start a new thread...)
     
  9. gotoloveit2

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    Thank you sup123. You've done a good job, but I think the title of the thread should be SF lovers and Yao haters please stand up.
     
  10. pasox2

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    That's it, tbrown. Steve should be catching the ball on a cut, not dribbling into defenders, jumping in the air, dumping it, and backing up to the 3line. He's good at cutting. Not as floor general. Either let Steve go backdoor out of the high post or put him in the two man game p&r on the low post with a pf. Making him turn the rusty mental gears hunting for post entry or shooters to hit is dumb.
     
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    i'm totally and utterly Flabbergasted. Oh my gosh...
    :eek:

    Houstone, Thanks very very much for that video man!
     
  12. Roxnostalgia

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    I think it's sick the way the advent of the YOF has made Rockets fans have to justify their support of this team's guards. If it's Steve today, it'll be Cat AGAIN tomorrow.

    It's obvious that the agenda of these so-called fans is first to support Yao and then whatever team he is playing for.

    I find it funny that I find myself wanting to point out to those who criticise STeve's style of play that AT LEAST HE CAN GET THE BALL on an off night. Lately, Yao just "fights" for position in the post for 18 sec (this is when Steve is "dribbling out the clock") and after he is outmuscled by whatever 6'11'' opposition, the Rox throw up a three. :mad:

    Then I realize how much I like Yao. Geez, he's 7'6'', has an unbelievable touch, he seems to be very personable, and he's got plenty of time to improve. Most importantly, he's a Rocket.

    The Yao first fans are a cancer to the supporters of this club. Forget ya'll.
     
  13. dfoolz

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    But can he get us to the playoffs?I dont think so!:eek:
     
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    We are already in the playoff 8 and only have to stay ahead of PHX, LAC, Portland and Utah. We have a chance at that easily.
     
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    It's almost comical ...
    Most everyone agrees that
    1) Steve is good at A, B, C, D...
    2) Steve is bad at E, F, G ...

    Then Steve's lovers concentrate on his pluses and praise him while Steve's haters look at his minuses and bash him ... :)

    (Same is true with Yao or other players too ;))
     
  16. Roxnostalgia

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    You mean players have pluses and minuses?



    So THAT'S why there are multiple players on teams:eek:
     
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    Exactly, if the playoffs were to start today, we would be the 7th seed. All the NBA analysis said we would make the playoffs no higher than the 6th seed and so far they are dead on.

    Just a question for Steve haters: If we make the playoffs and have a first round exit, will ya'll still hate Steve (since that is the main concern with him)
     
  18. tierre_brown

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    If they do, they must really hate KG.
     
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    Steve has potential to bring a lot of "hype" into the game, although as of late, the hype's been fading... =/
     
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    Yes, I liked Moochie and I still do. Although he wasn't as important to our team as the others, I still like him because he was in our uni and his sense of humor. The trade was good for us as a team and for him, but I was still sad to see him go.
    As for Meech, we don't know him well enough to love him as we do to the other players. His time here was short, no playing time and no involvement in the community.
     

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