To my Republican friends ONLY: Obama screwed over HEALTHY people

If they are able to repeal the monstrosity that was passed then they would have to. They should have done it when they had the chance before 2006.

 

Repealing this does not equal addressing health care.

 

Woah, I thought that thread died halfway....

 

Anybody besides me think the OP copied and pasted this from somewhere else?

 

What I said was if they repeal it then they would have to come up with a better plan. That's the campaign slogan "Repeal and Replace!" Republicans also have the advantage in the fact that working Americans who have employer provided healthcare generally get their next year enrollment packs in October. This law is going to cause premiums to go way up and/or coverage to go down because insurance companies will have to pass the cost of the pre-existing condition and child coverage until 26 on to their customers. When working Americans see this in October they will hit the roof and vote the Democrats out.

 

Won't the additional business drive costs down? Or at least negate that?

 

you're right, the grammar and punctuation is significantly better than in brian_chapman's previous posts.

 

I am more interested on his thoughts on Avatar.

 

If you believe that then I have some ocean front property in Arizona for you. We will see later this year. Then there will be two more years after that where Americans get to see how much this will affect premiums/coverage before the 2012 elections. I fell quite strongly that public outrage will give the Republicans a super majority so they can fix this. I just hope they don't abuse the super-majority as the Dems did.

 

Your assumption has just as much to it as mine does.

 

Guys, why on earth do you even respond to a brian_chapman thread? He doesn't post back: he's just here to hit-and-run. Just ignore his inflammatory nonsense until his inevitable banishment from the BBS. Don't encourage him.

 

After that epic Greg Oden thread, I'd say it should be a bannable offense to *not* encourage brian_chapman to post more.

 

It's fun.

 

While I would actually not be surprised to see premium changes in October hurt Democrats, in my particular circumstance at least I would be hard pressed to blame them. For this year, our company switched plans for the third time in three years because our premiums were being raised 25%. My current health insurance company, Anthem Blue Cross, already announced plans before this legislation was passed to raise premiums as much as 39% (although I don't believe that specific increase applies to people like me). So the status quo was already likely to be another large premium increase in October.

If it happens as expected, then I wouldn't be surprised if the Democrats get hurt by it, but I don't know if it would be accurate to say that they should be.

 

Don't confused the definition of "HCR". As we have seen with this bill, the liberals definition of HCR is simply a government mandate take over, whether their bill is better or for worse. The premise behind HCR was to make health insurance more affordable to everyone. With all the political rabble over the years, I think people have grown accustom to signing any bill as HCR.

 

Donny,
I seriously doubt that additional insureds will negate the additional costs associated with pre-existing conditions. Most of these conditions are chronic and expensive to treat. IMO this is why they were excluded in the first place. I just do not think this is a product fir which economies of scale, "stack them deep and sell them cheap" will rule the day.

The ban on exclusion needed to happen. I am gravely concerned with the lack of a premium control mechanism.

 

This is not a government takeover. This is not Hillarycare. This is remarkably similar to the Republican answer to Hillarycare. The insurance business is about to boom.

 

^This.

 

Funny, too, is the indictment that if you oppose some aspect of this bill you oppose HCR in general.

Bottomline: people want a lot more for a lot less... that's not easily fixed.

 

As one of them, agents are concerned about their role in all of this. As you can imagine, rumors are running wild. More unemployed?