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To extend KPJ or not?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Lachard Binkley, Jul 29, 2022.

  1. Verbal Christ

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    Nah its fanboys vs haters. Buckle up! :D
     
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  2. Corrosion

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    I don't mean to be an ass .... but someone needs to proof read DuBose article here.

    He says KPJ is #43 but the link he gives has him at #153 with a real value of $8,365,472. Not the value stated in his article of $11.8 million.

    Oddly enough, Jabari and Tari are the top two Rockets on the list followed by Green.

    #43 Jabari $23,408,857
    #139 Tari $9,464,760
    #140 Green $9,222,902
    #153 KPJ $8,365,472

    This is as bad as the random twitter stats ....
     
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  3. Verbal Christ

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    @The Cat -- care to explain? The natives are restless with your reporting! If I were to take a blind stab at it in laymans terms I'd probably guess that it has to do with the difference in the values and not the black and white numbers but maybe its best for him to respond!

    As far as Rockets Twitter glad they piss off so many purists. I wish I could post only 1-2 follower accounts just for the fun times!

    edit: nope my guess is not right either! Hopefully he responds.
    edit 2: Does the list then mean that Jabari Smith is worth 23Ms per year ALREADY (good for 44th best on the list) without playing a single minute HOW??? Something is definitely off.
     
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  4. Verbal Christ

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    Imagine actively trying to sht on one of your very own players on the verge!! Couldnt be me!

    Does the ESPN account have enough followers?? LOLLL



    PS: Jalen eclipsed that the following year!!
     
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    RocketsWire Ben's article from 8/26

    Final paragraph of [ Report: Rockets, Kevin Porter Jr. both want contract extension in 2022 ]

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    Ultimately, for the team, it likely comes down to the dollar figure. If Porter will take a first-year salary (in 2023-24, when any extension kicks in) near or slightly above the $9.7 million cap hold, there’s not much downside to getting a deal done early and eliminating any risk of Porter potentially playing his way into a much larger contract.

    On the other hand, if Porter wants a far higher first-year number, it might make sense for the Rockets to wait. Houston could give him a similar contract a year from now, but with significantly less stress on its financial flexibility, thanks to the lower cap hold."

    The number from a team perspective is near 10 mil. for the 1st year.
     
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  6. King1

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    It's really not if Houston is successful. That said, it will be amusing. I won't be too hard on you lol
     
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  7. AlperenSengun

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    Kpj 27 pts in 37:38 against utah. Rockets lost by 15, KPJ -13. 25 fga, 1/9 3pts. Really remarkable performance.

    Sengun at 19 years old against portland. Win by 17. Sengun +13. 27 pts in 25:46 on 16 fga. Now that's an effective 27 at 19. But still not important! What you can do regularly counts, what you do every now and then is not important, especially if you are doing it by playing more minutes and taking more shots.
     
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  8. DaDakota

    DaDakota Balance wins
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    Well KPJ Dropped 50 ....How old was he?

    DD
     
  9. Verbal Christ

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    50% of the Clutch Fans experience is getting past the preliminary hazing period by the egos on here and then enjoying the petty! I love laughing at myself since I dont take myself very serious. Have fun with it! Just remember I'M KPJ FANBOY #1 so direct the energy appropriately!

    And we were actually starting to get along too!!! :D
     
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    Assuming Lowe and MacMahon are telling the truth, teams outside of the Rockets aren't interested in acquiring KPJ as starting PG.

    So KPJ as is, isn't very marketable for a large contract. That doesn't mean he can't be very marketable at the end of next season. But to claim that he is already worth 15M+ per year is simply not true no matter how many cherry pick stats or highlight clips you show.

    Giving him that kind of contract now is a huge gamble. If he doesn't pan out like some fans here think, it might hamper our future capacity to retain truly worthy players.

    If he really turns into a generational kind of player within one year, then great, let's pay him and build around him. No need to "buy low" now. But most sane people would think the chances of that happening are close to zero.

    If he improves into a decent starting PG, then fine, we'll let the market determine his value. Even if we lose him, so what? There are plenty of decent starting PGs out there. We have enough assets to get one in the future when we are ready to contend.
     
  11. Verbal Christ

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    LMAO! I'd pump the brakes a little on the chest pounding in wins vs the Blazers my guy! Utah was a playoff team up until about 15 minutes ago so when the original stat occurred it was still newsworthy and Jalen Green blew it out of the water entirely this season. Just looking for "reputable" news sources that you guys can enjoy!

    Hey are the Milwaukee Bucks any good? Do you have advanced metrics for Jrue Holiday? Im guessing dropping 50/11 against them was just another normal Wednesday night game huh? :D

    Makes me wonder when will Alperen have his first 30/10 game? Shoot that may come in a 50 point blowout since he's just that much more effective!! :rolleyes:
     
  12. Verbal Christ

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    When you add the assists it placed him among only 10 other players over the last 40 years to attain those stats! "No big deal" :D
    https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id...evin-porter-jr-fifth-youngest-score-50-points

    Youngest Players with 50-point Game
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    Kevin Porter Jr. became the fourth player in NBA history to have a 50-point game before turning 21.

    YEARS-DAYS
    Brandon Jennings 20-52
    LeBron James 20-80
    Devin Booker 20-145
    LeBron James 20-345
    Kevin Porter Jr. 20-360
     
  13. Believe It!

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    Man. Those tweets though... Where the Rox heads at now?
     
  14. DaDakota

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    I don't listen to NBA writers they aren't close enough to the situation to know they are usually about 5-8 months behind on knowledge about the roster.

    Now guys locally are hooked in.

    DD
     
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  15. AlperenSengun

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    It was newsworthy, it is not projection worthy, not relevant in terms of scoring capability.

    If you play Sengun 38 minutes, then he will eventually get his 30/10. But nobody cares about that.
     
  16. Corrosion

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    With the new streaming / TV deal expected that year you may not be that far off ....

    But the impact of that won't be increased numbers in the Now.

    Players are going to refuse long term deals in favor of contracts that make them free agents in the first year of that cap jump.

    We'll see a lot of 1or 2 plus player option deals to get us to that point in time after which the numbers will spike tremendously and then players will take those longer term deals.
     
  17. apollo33

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    Does anyone actually want KPJ to fail. We are talking about contracts here right?

    I think the general consensus is that pretty simple,
    -play well, show out and we will happily pay you. if you stagnate we will not. It's too early at this point to commit
     
  18. Believe It!

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    Yeah. Best to label a rook before they get their footing. Regardless how they end up.
     
  19. Bobbythegreat

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    It was an accurate description of a thing that happened, not a "label"....do we need to pretend it didn't happen so his fans don't get caught up in their feels?
     
  20. glimmertwins

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    Wait - did someone say Barrett is making $35 mil? Man, I must have read the wrong article - I saw $24mil and was like, that's not awful. $35mil? I'm out.

    ....I think my logic still applies - I think $24mil is the new MLE-ish territory and under that makes sense as it applies to KPJ but yeah, I clearly got bad info on RJ.
     
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