Would be a very good story, and I do think it's likely that KPJ and Green end up the best backcourt in the league. If Green develops the way I think he will, they make a perfect pairing that is impossible to stop.
Best I can think to do is look at basketball references GameScore stat. Not perfect, but a decent way to look at the varying quality and quantity of his games. Not really a great way of comparing it to the rest of the league either, but here’s what I found. https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/p/porteke02/gamelog/2022 For reference the MVP had an average GameScore of 26.3 KPJ: 61 games played Season Average GameScore : 11.2 Single Game Season high : 31.0 Single Game Season low : -2.0 Games Below Season Average : 33 Games at or Above Season Average : 28 Games Below 5.0 GameScore(really, really bad games) : 12 Games Above 20.0 GameScore(really good games) : 8 (5 of those 8 came in the last 7 games of the season)
Yes LOL. That can be said for many in all walks of life. Think most people know this. Why do you ask?
Yes, it's easy for us as fans to say keep losing and bring us Christmas presents every year....but Silas is getting labeled the worst coach ever. He has to start doing something. Wood torpedoed the roll part last two seasons. With him out and Tari/WCS/Bruno able to get high above the rim....teams have to respect that. No layups/lob dunks are the rules. As Verbal has posted stat wise: Rockets were one of the teams with the most open 3-pt looks. Because teams were packing the paint and daring us to shoot. Also Porter potential assists was around 10. Meaning if those players had made those open threes then his assists and assist% would have been higher. Wood was a good 3-pt shooter; but the mere fact that Tari on one side of the court with Jabari at the other side of the court will open things up. Spain pick-n-roll using Jabari as 1st screener Ghosting, and Tari as 2nd screener that dives to rim. Opponents have to respect both the Jabari pop out and the dive man. The hard work of going against 4 guys in the paint was like pulling a sled uphill all season last year. This year will seem like a walk in the park as all of Porter/Green/JC will have less clutter to cut through. Jabari-Tari in opposite corners with Sengun up top with leave so much open space. Not to mention Green/Porter/JC getting some corner shooters as well. Defenses won't be able to set up as they did last season.
Thanks for this, it's really interesting. If you look at Jokic, he didn't have a single game with a gamescore lower than 10. Embiid also had no games below 10, and Giannis had just a single game below 10. KPJ had 30 out of his 61 games below 10. Now obviously comparing him to MVPs is a little silly, you don't need a metric to show that he wasn't an MVP candidate. But I think it's an interesting demonstration of the consistency required to really be THAT guy. And how far off KPJ is. Half his games were below 10! For a little context to what that actually means for anyone who doesn't know what GameScore means (I think this is most people), a game where he had 8/4/8 on 2/9 shooting gives a gamescore of 9.5, and nearly half his games were that bad or worse. KPJ also has 3 games over 25, and 3 games in the negative. I wonder if any other NBA player can say the same? Having 8 games over 20 and 12 games below 5 is also pretty unique. I really do think he's an outlier in terms of consistency, some nights he looks like an all star and other nights he looks like he needs to be sent down to the g league.
Adding efficiency AND consistency will be key. First half of the season was an abomination for clarity within the stats. I believe this years roster will be better than last years and should allow for more improvement. Or we can just stand on the ledge and expect an implosion. Matter of perspective. Are you predicting a drop off?
Am I predicting a drop off in performance during “clutch” scenarios next season compared to last? I certainly hope it doesn’t get worse than last season, but I don’t know really if it matters all that much. We were a crappy team last year and will be crappy again this year. I’m not looking at KPJs overall bad clutch stats from last season and coming away with the idea that it was all his fault for the teams poor “clutch” time performance. He just wasn’t good in the clutch over the entire season, I don’t believe anyone on the team was all that good in “clutch” situations last year. Hope to see improvement from everyone in close games, but I’d imagine once again no one is going to look amazing when looking at the entire season in those situations.
I use stats from nba.com or basketball reference mainly. I don’t know what the tweet refers to but his clutch stats are bad and you can see it if you watch the games. That could improve but again it supports that he might not be able to replicate what he is doing in the competitive setting. He was in Cleveland with garland. And now garland is an all star max player and the more talented kpj cannot get a 15 million extension from the bottom team in the league. And you think I am the one making stark assumptions.
Why are you posting 4 year statlines. Simons has a recent shooting split of basically 50/40/90. What is KPJ's, can he achieve 45/38/70 this year?
You dont apply any context. You sit here and thrust Garland out there as if he doesnt enjoy having way better teammates to HELP HIM reach those high expectations. KPJ was there with Garland and had had Kevin Love (of all people) claim he was the best talent on that roster. I posted you a video of multiple times where Scoot came up clutch, but you choose to look the other way and hold onto the year long stats as if THAT will be what determines his impact there moving on. Makes no sense. YOu guys are handicapping him to not get any better. You are making the claim that KPJ will not be a good clutch player and will use a deathgrip on the stats without even acknowledging he DOES have moments where he is impactful. Totally bad faith arguments coming from you similarly using a playoff team vs the worst team in the league in making another assumption as to why one player deserved his money and the other didnt? "wont be able to replicate in a competitive setting" LOL ok.
Posting a career arc of KPJs contemporaries offers a glimpse into the development of said player. What is hard to understand about that? I dont know if KPJ will hit those marks but seeing his FG/3ptFG shooting increase wouldnt really be that surprising as those comps are within reach. His free throw shooting wasnt an issue prior to this season and there was reason to be optimistic there with how he closed the year. Simons is a better shooter? Ok. KPJ is a better passer and defender.
A team has to be in a competitive game to even qualify for clutch stat keeping -- I remember us getting blown out most of the time. I fully expect a more competitive team this year -- crappy will be a subjective opinion because as long as you see growth, chemistry and development from the team it should be considered a "win".
If they both can coexist on the floor, both needing the ball, but ok giving it up and getting everyone involved while playing as a team on both ends and everyone buying into whatever system is ran. The sky's the limit. Sign me up for that for sure.
Kpj had exactly the same chances to enjoy the help garland got. He did not, all because his own actions. And although the evidence suggests completely the opposite, you want people to assume that he would make use of the help, if he could get to the point to get that help by not throwing soup. You post a video where he makes a clutch shots. The question is how often does he make them? I can post a video of Sengun making all of his 3s but that would not suggest that he will be a great 3 pt shooter. Jordann posted his year long clutch stats. If that is not going to be an indicator, what is going to be? A video of the shots he made,lol.
Yeah, I think someone once said, "Any NBA player can score 50 points in a game. It's how often they can do it that matters." Doing it night in and night out (with Drexler's voice) is what makes a star.
"Scoot is not clutch because the stats say so" Imagine being that obtuse in a tank season and then using playoff teams and winning expectations to further make a point about performance vs reward. So ignore the moments that he is able to come through for the team in favor of the "big picture" but simultaneously propose a pessimistic view of whats to come! Goofy! https://sports.yahoo.com/rockets-gu...src=rss&utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter
Bobby's initial KPJ 's ceiling is "multiple MVP's" comment was a bit much. I know if I said that about Green many would think the same, but like he said "in the perfect scenario" then who knows. Can they both be superstars? Talent wise yes. If they can coexist playing off each other with all the talent on this team plus a likely lottery pick next year and cap space, the future is bright indeed. On a team like that, they will all be in the spotlight and make names for themselves.
Im pretty sure you could make a convincing argument for Alperen Sengun being the best player on the team and only needing minor tweeking to become a good shooter! Why? Hmmmm. I wonder.
