The bullshit is from the fans who are overanalyzing a guy who is still maturing......like he is some sort of murderer or something. Just look at his skills he is the most talented guy on the Rockets right now...... DD
The front office obviously doesn't think he is the most talented player on the roster, because if they did they would have locked KPJ to a contract by now.
I understand both sides of the talented vs troubled argument and to be fair, he has been both. Has a long way to go with both, but he's young and I think he will. Hope he will. With only 12 days until preseason gm 1, I'm excited we'll all have others things (better things) to discuss. Unfortunately I'm afraid this thread will still be pumping well into the season. At least until they get a deal done. Love to hear Jabari's take on him. Can't wait to see KPJ getting the young guys involved. This year is going to be fun no doubt. And then next year and the year after that and....
Falling into DD territory? Ha. Not quite. I don't think anyone else is capable of falling into DD territory. Glad you can admit the origins of your name though. Yessir!
Wrong, they are being prudent - because with all that talent, he still has to prove that he is maturing, I think the FO is doing it right, don't you? Doesn't mean he isn't the most talented, just means they are being cautious.....lots of UBER talented guys don't make it or fall short due to immaturity or mental issues. I am fine with the wait and see. I will never understand why people simply hate on other Rockets fans - for their fandom - just makes no sense, you do you.....and do the best you, you can do..... You don't have to follow me around like a lost puppy and try to pick a fight - that doesn't do anything to help the conversation or the board - seems a waste of time, very trollish.... I posted a video of KPJ highlights - and you come in b****ing about me, not the content but me....lol....I mean - why are you so concerned with me? What have I done to deserve your attention? Let's not make this about ME, but about KPJ - ok? That is what this thread is.... a KPJ one..... DD
I disagree when you consider both ends, but I respect your opinion and think Green is going to be great. To me, as we are trying to find the 3-6 players to build around, we have only 1 for sure, and that is Green, then probably Jabari is the 2nd one......now we have to find 3-4 others that fit with those two out of: Sengun KPJ Mathews Nix KMJ Tate Garuba Bruno Christopher Ty Ty Eason And not in any order.....who will be keepers and whom will be moved for other talent that might fit better? DD
Good info from our own @BimaThug For the record that is the type of deal I predicted......though I wanted team option in year 3. (Edit) turns out these were MOCK extension talks, Bima clarified in later Tweet. DD
DD looking stupid as always. Says he predicted 13-14 million but bet he'd get 20 million a year. He's not going to honor his bet anyways
This puts me back to my endless loop of how the hey does SS (FO?) allot minutes??? Too many with too much to prove, too few minutes to improve, to prove it.
That is 100% my argument for why Garuba won't get it here in Houston - there just isn't any minutes with 13 guys to try to define. I have told @Clutch that even though we have been great in drafting and finding guys like NWaba and Mathews and Tate, the real measure of a GM is KEEPING the RIGHT pieces and trading off the others. OKC blew it when they kept Westbrook over Harden, they had a championship roster....... Now Stone will need to find a way to get 5-7 players out of 13ish to stick and build around.....and the CORE 3-5 will be the key......WHO are they? 1. Green 2. Jabari 3.? 4.? 5.? DD
Your core is pretty much it. Lots of Rockets fans looking at players through rose tinted glasses but only Jabari and Green are locks for this core moving forward. Everyone else is a wild card. The next closest one is Tate. You can probably pencil him in. So you have Green/Jabari/Tate. Beyond that the following are in the mix and will be evaluated this year as being capable rotation players/starters or more: Sengun - KPJ - Mathews Then you have the G-Leaguers/guys that need to prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that they actually belong in the NBA: Tari - Garuba - TyTy - Josh - Nix People are penciling in Tari as a starter already in some corners but the guy is still incredibly raw and I'd be thrilled if we got a mini-Herb Jones like season out of him. I think him and Tyty will be seeing G League duty. Usman will be above him in the pecking order. Those two are probably the most important pieces the Rockets have right now behind Green/Jabari. I'd put KPJ in that Garuba/Eason mix in terms of importance but if he hasn't shown incredible growth in maturity and decision making ability I'd just move on from him at the end of the season. I love Sengun but his offensive ceiling doesn't exactly offset his defensive downsides at the moment. You basically need to be a Jokic level of player for that to be the case. Right now a developed core of KPJ/Green/Tari/Jabari/Garuba is probably as lethal as it gets in the modern NBA. This is assuming KPJ gets his **** in order and doesn't have anymore meltdowns and Garuba hits the gym more than he hits the buffet. If he (KPJ) quits, at all at any point during a game or during the season, he should be cut immediately. If they do match an offer, of which I don't think there will be one from any team but let's say there is, there needs to be some ridiculous clauses in that contract that allows the Rockets to terminate early.
Lmao that's hilarious. Maybe it's because you think you sit up on some ivory pedestal. The fact you try to act innocent is hilarious in itself. There's a reason you're one of the most despised posters on this forum.
If he's truly our most talented player, i would trade green and jabari right now for picks as far into the future as possible, and continue trying to be as bad as possible to not lose the picks we owe to OKC, since this part of the rebuild has been a total and complete failure.
So let me get this straight, according to you: KPJ's issues so far are very minor, that people are blowing out of proportion. KPJ, despite being drafted at the 30th spot and was waived in his 2nd season, is the most talented player on a rebuilding team that has a 19 and 20 year old player selected with the 2nd and 3rd pick, along with a ton of 1st round picks. However, despite the above two, the Rockets choose not to lock him up now because they are just being prudent, even though not offering contract extensions has been known to strain relationships between FO and players (Ayton, Sexton etc.). There are only three possibilities, either KPJ is the most talented player on a rebuilding team filled with 1st round picks, but he has character issues so severe that FOs won't even risk locking him up long term, or his character issues are not that severe, but he is also not talented enough for the FO to lock him up immediately. Or he has severe character and is talented enough to be kept on this team, but not nearly enough for the FO to extend him. You are speaking out of both sides of your mouth right now.
None of this is true, I don't sit on any pedastal - not sure where you get that. There are certainly haters, I can't help that, when you are unafraid of putting your opinion out there, you get people that just view it differently. You for instance can't stand that KPJ is still here. I get it. KPJ can be the best player and the org is being cautious due to his acting up in the past, both of those can be true, and IMHO are true. The best player on a team that won 20 games doesn't mean he is great, just means he is the best of the worst....at this time. DD
Most talented and the best player are not the same. KPJ is not the best player on this team, that person is Eric Gordon (by a large margin). If a team wanted to win a championship and wanted one player from this team, that player is Eric Gordon every time. Most talented is implying potential, and that is unlikely to be KPJ since he was drafted at 30th, and was waived in his 2nd season, and he hasn't done nearly enough to prove that in a re-draft, he would be selected over Green or Smith (if they were in the same draft). In fact, I would argue if given the choice, no GM would take KPJ over Green nor Smith, and based on a lot of GM and media ranking of young players, that seems to hold true (at least for Green).
