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To extend KPJ or not?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Lachard Binkley, Jul 29, 2022.

  1. King1

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    Destiny did not make it. Only Jalen.

    (“21st best SG” — Green suffered through an incredibly inefficient first half of his rookie season -- as most young guards do -- but he exploded in his final 25 games, averaging 22 points on 48/39/76 shooting splits and topping the 30-point mark in six of his last seven games. During those 25 games, Green knocked down 41 percent of his pull-up 3s, putting him on par with players like Darius Garland, Kyrie Irving and Jrue Holiday. While it may have been an end-of-the-year blip for a bad team, Green's strong finish lays the blueprint for a second-year leap. -- Colin Ward-Henninger)

     
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    So they're you? Guess that makes sense
     
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    It gives you a really good idea of how much a player impacts winning. The magic were trash last year, just like the rockets and the PG on the magic was maybe the worst player in the nba, so to act like Wagner had a good team around him is laughable.
     
  5. Sweet Lou 4 2

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    Whether you do it per 50 or per 100, you're going to get the same order.
     
  6. JayZ750

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    you checked it? cause the order can change cause each player is using different # of possesions.
     
  7. Sweet Lou 4 2

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    What do you mean each player is using a different number of possessions? The stat is per 75 possessions.
     
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    The order isn’t going to change. It’s a rate stat that has been multiplied by 75 to more align with a per game number but is normalized so that it doesn’t matter who uses more possessions.

    Total number of high value assists / total number of possessions will yield high value assists per 1 possession which is then multiplied by 75 to get the high value assists per 75 possession numbers.

    Player A had 100 “HVA” over 100 possessions for 1 “HVA” per possession
    Player B had 400 “HVA” over 200 possessions for 2 “HVA” per possession
    Player C had 900 “HVA” over 300 possessions for 3 “HVA” per possession

    Multiply it by whatever number of possessions you want(50, 75, 100), Player C is always going to be first, followed by B and then A.

    What would help this stat be more telling is to also list the volume for each player. Did the guy with the highest “HVA” rate also have the highest volume like in my example?
     
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    Not a bad stat, but filter still there with age 22 and under. Out of 30 teams, most starting NBA PG are over 22.

    They should just tweet out stats with last name starts with Porter, he'll be #1 in many categories.
     
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    Now your talking.

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    Yeah it reminds me of people who post stuff like "Player X is top 3 in ______" and then you look at the filters they're using and realize there are only like 5 qualified players on the list. People do that with Sengun a lot, though I imagine its a popular thing to do for all player only fans.
     
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    I definitely agree that there probably isn’t a long list with those filters, but in this specific case his overall ranking isn’t what I would be focusing on, it’s more the other names that he is around on that list. Guys who people are pretty high on as future PGs/playmakers.

    Though again it is just one part of the equation of KPJ becoming an all around better scorer/playmaker. I have always had more questions about his ability to score efficiently than I do with him becoming a good enough playmaker and I think this stat could be viewed as a good sign on the playmaking end.
     
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    The reason the 22 years or younger is to show that he is doing fine amongst his peers you haters !

    DD
     
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    The only reason for 22 years and younger is KPJ show up third if you filter that way, where KPJ is compared within a group with few members, and KPJ has the advantage of age and being 3rd year in the league.

    If KPJ came top 5 for 23 years and younger, that would be the criteria. If he could extend it to previous years, than you would see something like, KPJ rank 3rd among guards 22 or younger since 2018 in ....I could bet all my money that the criteria cannot be extended upwards with age, or include historical data in a way that keeps KPJ top five.

    As I mentioned in a previous post, the same comparison he did with Sengun with rookies! KPJ is peers with 19 years old, but Sengun is not peers with 22 years olds. And Sengun comparison goes back to 2014. At least it has some historical comparison. But still cherry picked.
     
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    you're right... but in my defense... math!
     
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    Yes sir!

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    Oh great. He's got another catch phrase to finish off each post with now.

    Because one wasn't enough.

    Yessir!
     
  19. DaDakota

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    Dude, you are quickly falling into DDingleberry territory, what is wrong with posting some video clips of a Houston Rockets player in that players thread?

    Just enjoy the show.



    DD
     
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    This is the stuff I want to hear.

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