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To extend KPJ or not?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Lachard Binkley, Jul 29, 2022.

  1. Believe It!

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    I didn't compare the two. I stated the facts as to why they fell in the draft. Your spitting out BS information that cannot be backed up with truth. This is your opinion. It fits your agenda. I get it.

    My quote...

    "In no way am I saying TyTy is a better player."

    Oh and BTW Nix looked great in the G League and isn't $hit when he's called up. TyTy will be the main back up come next yr if not sooner. But hey, that's just my opinion.
     
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  2. astrosrule

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    He sucks at shot creation. His skill is spot up shooting, and he’s completely miscast as an initiator.
     
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  3. apollo33

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    You should look in the dictionary of what "elite" means
     
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  4. clutchdabear

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    You need to stop with the idea that just because some people show proof that KPJ isn't worth a whole lot of money right now, it means we all hate him. We don't hate him. We are Rockets fans after all. If he does well, all the better. We just don't think he's worth the $20+M/yr that some of you are throwing around as if that money is well deserved.

    there's this one that was posted by jordnnnn right after your request for the links
    https://open.spotify.com/episode/1FKulvhyCUOfVLjMOgsLjP?si=aRgy60mRSTiA30wttQOc1Q

    and then there's this one (starts at around 1:07:00)
    Murphy, Lopez, and MacMahon The Lowe Posthttps://podcasts.apple.com › podcast › murphy-lopez-a...

    To say Lebron, or Ackerman (who's job is to be a Houston Rocket homer), Dame, or Kevin Love gush about KPJ means absolute ****. Lebron obviously has a history of being a terrible talent evaluator. Dame is just close to KPJ being in the northwest area so just looking out for his little bro. And KLove... well his comment was that he thought KPJ was the most talented guy he thought they had on the Cavs roster when KPJ, Sexton, and Garland were all there. Welp, he's obviously wrong because Darius Garland is far and away much more talented than KPJ, and if anyone asked KLove that question again, I wouldn't be surprised if he said Garland is one of the most talented guards he's played with.
     
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  5. jordnnnn

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    Complains about spreading misinformation.

    Proclaims KPJ to be an above average starting PG.

    In the same post.

    Can’t make this stuff up.
     
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  6. maj21

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    You don’t score 50 and have many games over 30 against good defenses if you suck at shot creation. He get his own buckets
     
  7. DaDakota

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    WTF are you talking about? I have never said that he is due that - I said 12-13m a year MAX unless he has a big year and then SOMEONE will offer him 20m and we will be forced to match.



    So, other people agree with you, others with me......guess we shall see this year.....huh?

    None of what anyone thinks matters, there are NO EXPERTS on the future.....all this is .....is made up arguing to try to say...I am right you are wrong.

    KPJ is a score first PG, that is what the org wants....gonna have to deal with it....

    DD
     
  8. astrosrule

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    You can have a fluke game or 2……that doesn’t make him good at it. He’s not good at it, he’s awful at it (so far, he could improve)
     
  9. Bobbythegreat

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    Ya kind of did though. You are the one that brought up the random G league caliber scrub into a conversation about KPJ. Tyty is completely irrelevant to the KPJ conversation and honestly he's probably irrelevant to the Rockets future entirely.

    When it comes to Nix in Summer League, he didn't "look great", he looked terrible, all of the guards did. There wasn't a single person on the Summer League team capable of running the point. None of them had any interest in creating shots for anyone else or the ability to do so.....but that's fine, no one should really expect any of those guards outside of MAYBE Josh Christopher to have much of a future with the team.
     
  10. DaDakota

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    Nah, just a nobody hanger on.....like a booger on the finger....a Kingleberry.

    DD
     
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    His shot creation is not good, let alone elite. If it was good, his isolation scoring wouldn't be so poor.

    His ball handling is good but plenty of NBA guards can do that. Nothing special.

    His C&S last season can be marginally called "elite" but it's only based on a small sample size. His overall career 3pt shooting is only average. Last season's 3pt shooting was slightly above average.

    If these are elite, the majority of NBA guards are elite.
     
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  13. Plowman

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    99th percentile in 3PT shot creation, and he was only open on 7.6% of his shots...

    For the thousandth time, they don't want him to be a conventional PG...A chunk of the offense will run through Alperen, along with KPjr/JG...His skills will compliment what we're doing perfectly.
     
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  14. Believe It!

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    No I kinda didn't AND I'm not the one that brought up TyTy. That was your doing.

    To which I responded...

    Then you started spitting BS about why they fell in the draft and I called you on it because it was false. Which brought us to here.

    Oh and I said Nix looked great in the G League not during the Summer.

    Can you come up with something factual?
     
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    For the thousandth time from NBA’s official stats

    https://www.nba.com/stats/players/s...-+Wide+Open&TeamID=1610612745&dir=D&sort=FG3A

    1.7 “Wide Open” 3s attempted per game

    https://www.nba.com/stats/players/s...efDistRange=4-6+Feet+-+Open&TeamID=1610612745

    4.0 “Open” 3s attempted per game

    1.7 + 4.0 / 6.8 total 3s attempted per game

    5.7/6.8 = 83.8% of his total 3s taken per game were “open” or “wide open”

    This 7.6% number is clearly some of that misinformation we don’t want spread around here.
     
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    It is not true that he was open on 7.6% of his shots. Nba keeps those stats, and they are public. Anyone can see.

    His playmaking ability is questionable. I am not sure what you mean by a traditional pg, but nobody wants a pg to bring up the ball with limited scoring ability. Scoring and playmaking are essential. The former, KPJ has yet to do efficiently, the second he has yet to do it well.
     
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  17. astrosrule

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    What do the rockets want him to do?
     
  18. Easy

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    I don't think anybody is expecting KPJ to be a so-called "conventional" PG. No need to rehash that. It's just a strawman. To be more precise, KPJ's problem is not playmaking per se (like what people assume of the playmaking of traditional PG) but decision making. If he is to be a good scoring PG, he needs to be better at decision making--better shot selection, reduced turnovers, etc., overall better understanding of the game. That is extremely important for a player who has the ball more than all of his teammates.
     
  19. King1

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    It's easy for losers to talk **** on the internet like yourself. You're a drunk fat bum. You'd never say this irl but this is your sanctuary.
     
  20. Bobbythegreat

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    The factual reasons they fell were as I stated, KPJ fell due to character concerns despite being one of the top basketball talents in his class.

    Tyty fell due to his low ceiling caused by a lack of athleticism, mediocre shooting, and overall mediocre skills.

    He's the typical "just a guy" type. Honestly we've spent way too much time talking about someone that's likely destined for overseas in a few years.
     

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