i dont find it terrible. that old bag (i think he was 60) brought candles and a thong....he was gonna **** that girl... if your driving 6 hours to go bang a 12 year old, you have a problem and you should get help or go to jail
not to mention, azadre, that the decoys wait to be approached online, they never engage in conversation with anyone... that makes these creeps predators... they initiate the meeting and act upon their impulses..they deserve to be arrested... as far as the ethics of the show itself, I'm still undecided
This is why I have a problem with people saying, "I hope he goes to hell," or, "God shall punish him," etc. I don't think God/bible has said anything about age limits.
The saddest dude was the Asian court administrator. Those are plush jobs in terms of the education - salary tradeoff. I think you can make up to 40-50k with a high school diploma and experience. Hansen: Why come here? Dude: I'm lonely. Hansen: Why not meet women your own age? Dude: I've tried. They think cause I'm Asian I'm nerdy and geeky. --- Dude: High five. Voiceover of decoy: He tried to give me a high five but I think I uh dissed him and he was like uh okay.
I personally think it's taking, even if it's a small %, of these predators off the street and keeping them from hurting real kids
I know that and I my first post I stated, that the show is there, at least it's got some redeeming value i.e. taking possible sex offenders off the street
But can you take all the blame off the kids for continuing a sexually explicit conversation? Say in the case, where a real pedophile is talking to a real kid- shouldn't the kid have more common sense than to tell the pedophile to back off? Its not like these 14/15/16 year old kids are idiots. Most of the kids these days are far more sophisticated than their parents ever were partly in due to global connectivity of computers and the internet. If a kid willingly meets an adult and they have had explicit conversations, I don't put 100% of the blame solely on the adult. The kid has led the adult on. The kid bears some responsibility, imo.
that's what i was telling someone. i mean of course it doesn't make what the pervs do right..but the kids create the problem by going into chats and continuing conversations that are sexually explicit. all guys are pervs. some desperate enuf to do it with young teens. but are u seriously telling me we are going to find a solution to catch every single perv out there? the simplest solution is for every parent to educate their kids of these kinda conversations. it's kinda like we are dying to find a cure for hiv/aids. in fact "we" are the cure. if we would stop spreading it, it would eventually die out. prevention is always better than cure.
This is a great show. However, the guy and woman that they have reading the online chat re-enactments in each show are freaking creepy.
And why are they going into teenage chat-rooms? I've no sympathy for them. They're in there looking for a reason.
agreed. i'll admit i'd never seen it until i read this thread last night then i watched an episode on their website. a couple guys looked like repeat offenders but i got the feeling that a lot of the ones getting caught are just lonely men, who aren't necessarily bad people, but can't get anything themselves and are practically getting sex thrown at them. i'm not excusing them and i think these guys need to be punished by the law, but embarrassing them on national television probably doesn't need to be part of the process.
i wish they wouldn't prosecute these guys. public humiliation on national tv and loss of career should be enough. the repeat offenders seem to have mental issues.
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I can't believe there are so many pedophile sympathizers in here. IT DOESN'T MATTER if these guys are desperate and lonely, they're still looking for sex with young teens and are willing to drive hours to get it. How would you feel if that was your house that the guy is driving to have sex with your daughter or son? "Oh well, this guy's lonely - I'll just tell him not to do it again." Of course they have problems and issues, but so do thieves and murderers and a lot of people that break the law. Don't let these guys off the hook because they shed a few tears and you can relate to thinking a 15 year old is attractive.
That is some terrible logic in my opinion, it's like saying they were asking for it. That kind of logic applied to a rape case, for example, would make the woman partially responsible because of the way she was dressed or my have been flirtatious with a guy. Whether kids are more sophisticated now a days or not, I wouldn't trust their judgement vs. that of an adult. Kids in that age group have horomoes going nuts and are easily susceptible to crushes and infatuations. They are still kids, the adult should be an adult and do the responsible thing.
I'm not suggesting you don't hold them accountable under the law. I am suggesting they need more than that, though. They need help...counseling. Many people have personalities that are highly addictive. Toss in sex, the perceived privacy of the internet and a big dose of low self-esteem and you have a recipie for this crap. For many this is like holding up whiskey to an alcoholic.....they move from fantasy land to a reality suggested by those hoping they'll show up so they can film another one. I'm also suggesting that the point of the show has moved from informative to entertaining. Using the humiliation of these moments as points of entertainment, in my mind, is playing to the absolute bottom. I think its exploitive of the whole situation.
Max, I understand the questions I raised in post #78 are probably not within the area of your practice, but would you mind opining on this possible legal complication and moral dilemma from a neutral observer point of view? Thanks. EDIT: The reason I asked is because I see it's more than just a matter of enforcing the law governing statutory rape, there are also immigration law/international treaty, marriage law, and possible equal protection principle involved. Other posters, especially those working in legal field, are welcome to chime in.
