To All The Unconditional Management Supporters

I don't understand your post. Do you think I want the Rockets not to win playoff series?? That I'm thrilled with a drought this long? Why the hell would you think I'm trying to make it "sound awesome??"

I'm not trying to make an argument. I'm not arguing anything. The point is for an extended period of time, we haven't had playoff success...and I think that sucks...particularly in a league where more teams make the playoffs than don't.

And I'm quite aware of the multiple titles....I was in the Summit both of those nights. I have a crapload of memorabilia hanging in my office from both runs. I remember thinking then that over the previous 15 years, we had been in the NBA Finals 4 times. That was awesome. Once every 4 years basically, we were playing for the championship. That's what we once were. I feel like there's too many folks satisfied with a lot less these days.

 

Some of us want the Rockets to win another ring or at least be a contender, instead of living off the Rocket's 2 titles in the 90s and treading water between low lottery and playoff 1st round fodder.

 

I think all of us want that except for the trolls. But you have to ask yourself do you really think they are not trying. We are not in LA or New York or Boston or Chicago where players want to go. Lebron and Bosh don't want to team up with Martin to play here. Anthony and Amare do not want to sign contracts with us. The only other option is to try to tank and hope that one day we might get lucky and draft the next Hakeem or Duncan. But actually that was what was supposed to happen with Yao. Only Yao was broken.

In the past 25 years only 7 differrent teams have won championships. We happen be lucky enough to have 2. This year don't expect that 7 number to change. I liked our chances with a healthy Yao this year. Next year the Heat will even be stronger. They may become the next dynasty. What can Morey do to overcome that. We are young. We have assets. Brooks and T-Will will make us better. We can still make the playoffs. I think we will. If Morey can make one more deal before the trade deadline that makes us better I think we have a slim chance of beating the elite teams if we do everything right.

I am disappointed we lost Yao but the season is not over with. Tanking would be the worst option right now. We have already shown how we can beat LA and can compete with the Spurs. We are better than that now and we will only get better. Yao is gone but there is a remote possibility he will return. Of course, I am not getting my hopes up at all but while he is not young, he is not old. And if he does comeback that is just an added bonus that I do not put much hope in. And in the end the way I choose to see it is the glass is half full and maybe even a little more than half.

 

I would be happy if we could contend and win another playoff series to be part of the 24 other teams in the league that have won 2 playoff series.

Even better, if we improve on that and win 3 playoff series within 14 years. What's the use of barely missing the playoffs again for another low lottery pick or barely making it? At least we would be headed in the right direction. It's about the journey not just the goal.

Rockets been stuck in the same spot for 13 years with one detour to the 2nd round and then they went back to the same spot. There were 24 other teams that have came out with 2 playoff series wins or more.

 

The big question is whether the approach of collecting tradable assets or players that you need is the way to go. Maybe I'm wrong but it seems like moreys approach of looking a few moves ahead keeps us from getting the players that we look to use now and really integrate into the team. Specific moves to reflect on are the tmac trade, we gave up entirely to much. Not trading him for billups if that deal was out there. The Battier trade to win now. I love yao, but you can't build a team around a guy that can't get on the fluid consistently and they always built around him.

I think the next two years will tell us a lot about morey.

 

Didn't T-Mac kill the Billups trade? Didn't he hear about the trade and doctor shop for somebody that would give him surgery?

 

Now there's a rumor that Morey and Les would trade for Carmelo even if he refused to agree to an extension. And that's suppose to be a less risky strategy than tanking for a high draft pick?

 

No, the next two years will tell us a lot about Les.

 

You want us to suck so we can get nice lottery picks?

 

Nothing wrong with this topic, it should be discussed, when things go wrong everyone in the organization needs to look inside themselves at the job they did or didn't do and think about it to get better.

I am confident the team will make the right decisions, on everything EXCEPT Yao.

I believe (and it is just my belief, no evidence) that Daryl would love to flip Yao's contract, but Les makes far too much money in China due to the connections there because of Yao, that they will not let him go or be flipped.

So, I think all along, DM has had a hand tied behind his back and has been doing a bang up job, or as good as he could.....for the most part.

Probably should have tried for Amare, but that is hindsight, it was not that clear at the time.

What I worry about, is that we have a large, nearly $18 million dollar expiring contract, that Morey will not be able to utilize this year.....for a team that signed someone and now has buyers remorse.

I am not worried about next year, if they sign Yao, no doubt it will be on the cheap and they will not be counting on him....he will now be the definition of a Morey move...a low risk possible High return deal.

I know we are all dissappointed in the news, and unfortunatly not surprised, but let's see what happens going forward, we still have holes, but at least now....for the first time in more than 5 years.....we have a CLEAR CUT DIRECTION !

DD

 

To me, the opposite of collecting assets is to reach, i.e., to overpay for specific players that you think are going to make the difference. I think this is how most other teams do it. Whereas we are steadily getting more talented, most other teams go through feast or famine. They build up some impressive assets, but end up with bad contracts, and can't get out of the quicksand for years. If you're lucky, you win the ring before you start sinking, but I think most teams just start sinking, and repeat this cycle every few years.

 

Beamer I'm with you, I've never been a blind loyalist to an organization that doesn't produce championships. Since 94-95, we haven't come close. Yet we keep stockpiling PG's, SG's, and SF's. However, this organization hasn't traded for a decent big man (besides Scola) to give us a REBOUNDING and SHOT BLOCKING presence at the PF and C positions.

Where are we now, a 8th seed at best and 1st round exit. With Yao being out for an extended period of time, what Superstar will choose Houston?

 

There are not many teams that will trade a shotblocking rebounding presence at PF and C to us. Many teams are lacking such a player and are trying to acquire it themselves.

 

The reason why that works is because if Anthony wants the most money he will have to sdo a sign and trade wit us. Which means we get Galinari and Landry fields plus another 1st round pick they say they can get from someone. So while we may net get everything back that we spent. We will get a huge trade exception that everyone knows can be used to haul in an asset for a team that needs to dump salary. That's how you get the Pau Gasols and Tyson Chandler deals. Morey is smart. He knows all this and more. Trading for Anthony is a risk but it is a manageable one. And if we win he may decide to sign an extension with us. The fact is if he signs this season he is guaranteed a lot of money that he can't be sure of with the CBA up. The only we come out big losers is if Anthony decides to leave a lot of money on the table. I can assure you his greed will not allow it.

 

My point is that you're using a convenient cutoff line just to make your point. While he used 30 years. Because if you just add a few more years, our record would look a lot better than what you're saying.

Using the Rockets "weak point" in playoff victories vastly understate what they've accomplished even recently. They were the 4th or 5th seed in the much better conference for much of this decade. Making them basically consistently top 8-10 team many times. The fact that they failed in close series in the playoffs(3-4 defeats to Dallas, Jazz, Lakers) cannot be just summed up as "1 playoff victory in the last 13 years".

If you truly are a Rockets fan, you would know how misleading your comments were. It's the type of stuff that would certainly make Republican politicians proud.

 

^Who have all tried the TANKING method years agobut have failed to recover

 

This has to be the stupidest thing I have read all day !!!

 

ROFL!!!