I have a search bot for that running on multiple raid boxes, I would never want to miss a DD reference..... Again, so people don't get confused by your posting his incorrect comment. I agree the D&D could use a mod, and recommended MadMax and Rhester.....for the job... DD
If there is a moderator, I think that person should be anonymous. And the only thing he/she should restrict is personal attacks, overt and intentional thread derailing, or spamming.
I like the idea, but I think the Moderator should be present, IE, if they remove a personal insult post, there should be something there that says..."Moderator removed" and the person that did the post should get an automatic 24 hour timeout for a first offense. You could even have multiple moderators to allow for more coverage..... And we could have a structure that would up the ante on the penalties for repeat offenders......something like: 1. First offense 24 hour time out. 2. Second offense within a week - 72 hour time out. 3. Third offense within a week - 30 day ban. Everything would reset each week...... What do you guys think? Personally, I think you need consequences so that people will learn their lesson....everyone in here is capable of having a civilized discussion, someone just needs to set the ground rules and then enforce them. DD
That sounds fine to me. I agree with the idea of an anonymous moderator, but I think that a poster should be able to exchange e-mails or messages somehow with the moderator to understand fully where they crossed the line or went wrong in their posting. It can help to prevent the offenses from happening again.
What about an auto email with the post quoted that says you have been giving a timeout, and have the reason, and it would be from - Board moderator. DD
Maybe OK, as long as the poster could say something like "What about my post was insulting?" Then have it explained so the poster is clear of the infraction. Maybe that won't be necessary.
Here's what I think. I think you just spent another 10 minutes of your time coming up with a CBA for how people should converse on the internet. Now I don't know if your Warcraft tournament is still going on or not, or if you're wearing jorts and a WWII memorabilia helmet with a jumbo bag of m&m's sitting on your lap, but chances are yes to all 4. I think you need to step back and re-evaluate what it is you want out of life as a human being. And if it's structure and order, then this isn't the way to go about achieving it. People are people, we can't control them, we can only control how we respond to them.
Eh, the problem with this strategy being tossed around is most of the posters who post in here are too close each other to mete justice appropriately. Take SamFisher for example, he acts like a complete jerk to people consistently, but few people ever call him out on it because they tend to agree with him and oppose the people he is attacking.
That's why I think the moderator should be anonymous. I'm trusting that people are more likely to objectively moderate if they aren't worried about alienating themselves from their buddies. That, of course, requires that the person is basically responsible and won't violate that trust.
I see what you are saying. I think there is only a small segment of the group in here that has it in them to be equal in how they treat say Basso and SamFisher. I ran a message board for many years and dealt with moderators who couldn't do the job. I remember what it was like to ban people and get attacked for it and delete people's posts and get slammed and called all sorts of things. It's hard to find people, seriously, who will do it and be fair about it.
I wonder if people can actually read? I have said repeatedly that I would recommend MadMax and Rhester and NOT me. Look there is nothing wrong with setting rules of engagement and etiquette on a message board, it is a privately hosted site. I know some people want to tout the gloriousness of the internet and how it is unchecked anarchy, but that is what you get with unchecked anarchy, you get people attacking each other, yelling and screaming and screwing it up for folks that are interested in an honest discourse. The D&D used to be moderated, there was a decorum present, and while it was still a bunch of us bickering ninnies, it was a heck of a lot more reasonable and people knew not to cross the line. Anyone remember CreepyFloyd? He lived on the other side of that line and was banned because of it....which was a POSITVE for the community as a whole. The only way to clean this place, or any part of any board up is active moderation, and rules......if people don't like the rules they can go to another board, or get in line..... Of course, all this is moot if Clutch does not agree.... What I am trying to do is come up with a solution that does not take any of his personal time, as I assume he is busy enough without worrying about the monkeys like myself in here slinging poo. DD
I might have misread what you wrote, but I could have sworn you volunteered in one of your posts. Did you edit? I've seen you volunteer in other posts in other forums though.
Not me....I don't want to moderate, I could do it, but I would have to back way off and dissassociate myself from engaging in any actual discussion. Just look at the mods that are left, you rarely see them post any more, you see them tweet, but not post. If you are a mod, it can sort of suck the fun out of discussions etc. as people moderate their own discussions with you, and you don't get the full brunt of any discussion....making it less interesting to me. BTW - if you look at what happened in Arizona and consider that this board probably has the same percentage of unstable people on it, and some of us are personally known, I would think it would be smarter to tone it down. I know that I have been personally threatened through email and events from members that have been banned.....it is a bit unnerving knowing that some people can not distinguish between bantor and reality. I am just tossing out ways in which I think you might be able to "Tone it down" for the good of us all. DD
