Bonzi might be a Spurs killer, but he is an invaluable trading chip for our team, and I really wonder if he and JVG are so ready to make nice. Detroit has a really solid ballclub but they need that extra little bit to get them over the top. Bonzi and Rasheed are a volatile combo of a-holes but if Dumars can put the fear of God in them (I don't see Flip Saunders doing it), and if Bonzi believes he might be able to re-sign in Detroit... Bonzi won't re-sign with us. That money might be ear-marked for Chuck Hayes anyway (and even if Early Bird money would help us re-sign Chuck, there's always the dreaded luxury tax). If it's a good trade (we need to upgrade at the 4/5 and the 1), then do it.
I guess your name suits you well, are you kidding me? Wallace, Billups and MAYBE Hamilton for Bonzi? I think we need to remind ourselves that Mr. Wells has only averaged over 15ppg twice in his tumultous career. Add his reputation as a malcontent on top of that and his breakout playoff series last year becomes less valuable. Add to that his weight/injury/coach issues this year and his trade value is less. I'd love for him to get healthy, back on the court and help this team b/c I think he really can. However, if rumors start flying about trading him it's only because he's having more issues with JVG. I don't see them trading him for garbage, which Dale Davis would be. But if they do I'd rather them get a PG or another atheletic big who could play either PF/C.
Right now, I'd say we need an upgrade at the 1. If we can fleece Detroit for Hunter + Maxiel or something, then do it, but otherwise, I wouldn't do it to get Nazr or McDyess even. Dikembe is VERY good as a backup, and even as a starter now. When Yao comes back though, the backup C won't be getting many minutes, and there's none better in the league, imo at coming in and producing effectively in spot minutes like Dikembe. the 4-spot is more or less set as well. When Yao's back, Hayes will start and do the mop-up work. When Yao's out, JHo can come in and provide offensive continuity on the block. We should keep Bonzi. He's cost us cheap, so I can live with the mental ****, just for the fact that he is a matchup nightmare anytime he comes into the game. He's gonna be useful in the postseason.
They were also talking about this on 610 this morning and the guys mentioned something about a certain PG the Rockets would be interested, but I missed the name. Anybody catch that?
I think this is a question JVG and CD would have to ponder themselves. On paper, Bonzi is an upgrade for us specially in playoffs times. Bonzi is in his contract year and he should be playing all his heart out. However, if he is not helping us in the reg season, what makes him think the team would automatically roll into the post season? I will give him some time after he come back from injury to see where his heart lies. Has bonzi demonstrated that he has the heart and soul to help the rockets get to the next level? I certainly don't think so, so what makes you think he would be in shape for the post season? I say give him few games under the injury and see if he still got the heart. if not we need to get a decent pg or a pf.
I wonder what kind of PG Nazr Mohammed could fetch on the open market come trade deadline? Veteran big men are hard to come by.
I know Deke has been playing incredible. But eventually, probably next year, we will need a backup center for Yao. And Bonzi will not stay with the Rockets next year, so I think trading for Nazr is a good option.
Nazr (NOT Nazi!!!) has four more years AFTER this one on his contract. Nearly 7mm in the next decade, 2010/11. Why oh why would anyone think he has enough ability over his cap sucking ability? Besides, Bonzi is destined for South Beach.
I think Nazr can play 4 to D up big PF in the west for us. As for the PG situation, there is no way Piston's going to throw away one of their treasured back court for Bonzi. Which starting caliber PG in the legue you see other teams want to trade away for Bonzi. Do you want trade Bonzi for Earl Watson? With synder back, I think we will do fine on the 2 guard spot. But our 4 is still weak, not a disrespect to Howard. Come to playoff time, other teams will exploit it to death. The knock on Nazr is that sometimes he Swift like. That's the part I dont like, and we always have to be caution with Spurs's garbage.
If the Rockets feel that Bonzi isn't going to give them anything this year and if they can flip him for someone of value you have to do it. Plain and simple. With Detroit, we are talking about players such as Dale Davis, Nzar Mohammed and Antonio McDyess. It makes sense for Detroit to move one of their bigs for Bonzi if they are going to fill that big-void with Cwebb. From the Rockets perspective, they have a chance to move Bonzi and at the same time find another big as insurance for our front court until Yao gets back. With Nzar, you are talking about a potential "backup" to Yao for many years to come since Mutombo is near retirement. Nzar's contract is kind of long, do we want to committ to it? Dale comes of the cap this year. That would be a complete front court band-aid move. Dale is rather old. That would be a last resort trade to me. McDyess is the interesting one. He is on the books for this year and a player option for next year (which he probably will take). McDyess is more of a jump shooter these days and in many ways is similar to Juwan Howard. But McDyess can still be effective. He can score points. So to me McDyess is the one I would target if I am the Rockets. You could do Bonzi+Sura to match salaries. Then, the Rockets could potentially acquire Chucky Atkins with their TE from Memphis. That would get us Atkins and McDyess. Two vets that can add scoring and depth to this team. Seems like a good "moreyball" move.
There'd be nothing wrong with eating crow. That would mean Bonzi is actually playing, and playing well. Problem is....there is absolutely no way to know if that will happen and all signs point to it not. Bonzi has actually had some healthy stretches this year. He either played poorly, or didn't play att all because of his attitude problems. My point is only this. If I eat crow....great. But I wouldn't bet on that happening. I don't think Carroll, JVG, Les, or any of the Rockets brass are going to either. It's been too much of a roller coaster with him. They will and likely are exploring trading him. If you think he can get more than Nazi in return, fine. 5 pages of people trying to trade him for one of the Pistons starters, though, makes absolutely no sense. Personally, I would pursue very actively getting Maggette. Bonzi, Sura, Padgett for Maggette works. On the other hand, you'd think there'd be a bigger market for Maggette...but maybe not. If not, and the Rockets can get him for 3 players who don't even play right now....DING DING DING!!!
If we could get McDyess for Bonzi and Sura's deals, I think that one would be a no brainer. McDyess lives here in Houston and although he is having an off year shooting the ball, he is a very good career shooter and decently efficient with over 1.2 pps for his career. I can't imagine Detroit turning him loose however in exchange for basically Webber and Bonzi.
I dont know why everyone seems willing on giving up bonzi he can be very valuable come playoff time the rockets need to keep him
I'd much rather hang onto Bonzi for the playoffs. You can pull this "Well he might not play!" crap but let's be honest, if he physically can't play for us he physically can't play for the Pistons either. .....and if the idea is to trade him: targeting foul prone, backup centers with a ton of money owed over a ton of years simply smart.
I'm still pretty convinced Bonzi is gonna be pretty valuable down the stretch and in the playoffs. This injury is legit and Bonzi is gonna do great things for us eventually (he showed flashes of how good he can be in several games before his recent injury). Trading him for Dale Davis would be ridiculous... Nazr Mohammed would be a better trade, but I'd still rather keep Bonzi. For the right price I think maybe we should trade him... but those guys are not considered the right price. And who else hates TNT sports? Their commentators are ridiculous. Barkley said last night that the Heat are still a top 3 team in the East. Give me a break, Round Mound.
i'm telling everybody the guy we could really use is lindsey hunter the guy is a pest on D.I could see him giving nash,jason terry,parker a little trouble..maybe not shut them down, but fustrate them alot.
we need as much backcourt D as we can get agianst dallas and phoniex so That's why I think this guy would really help and I know I can't be th eonly person that see this.
