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TMAC's problem on defense is...

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by levintblack, Feb 4, 2008.

  1. durvasa

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    We need to move past T-Mac's defense on Dirk 3 years ago. He simply has not been a good defensive player this year. We need more from him on that end. The original poster is right ... he's a ball watcher who tends to lose his man a lot. Bonzi has the same problem. Good defenders like Battier (who himself made some uncharacteristic defensive mistakes in the fourth quarter today) will see the whole court.
     
  2. SuperStar

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    well the Dirk defenses is the only one I can remember well. He is a step slow for whatever reason but is his defense costing the Roxs big time? How many points did his man get?
     
  3. durvasa

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    I can't put a number on it. Obviously he helps us on offense a lot more than he hurts us on defense (most of the time). But considering that Shane takes the tougher defensive assignment most nights, the least he can do is play hard and attentively with whatever responsibilities he's given. I don't see that consistently from him.
     
  4. bob718

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    Nobody doubts his ability. I, personally, doubt his attitude and will to win. Tmac for the most of time just doesn't seem to care about playing defense.
     
  5. ClutchCityReturns

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    (On Court) Defense: Pts per 100 Poss. = 105.7

    (Off Court) Defense: Pts per 100 Poss. = 101.4


    and he doesn't make up for it on offense...

    http://www.82games.com/0708/07HOU7D.HTM
     
  6. SuperStar

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    I dont understand those stats clutchreturns what are they suppose to represent? Is that some team stat or individual?
     
  7. SuperStar

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    Well I don't think there's that much players in the NBA with a will and drive to win like Kobe, KG, etc. A lot of Rockets players are guilty of not playing hard during the regular season not just Tmac. The Pistons tend to get bored during the regular seasons games too but they are just a very deep team that they can afford to do that. IMO Tmac has shown the will to win in every playoff game he was in with the Roxs.
     
  8. rocketsregle

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    The whole team's defense has been bad not just Tracy's. Tracy no closing out or not fighting through screens. Alston allowing Telfair to get into the lane time and again, putting the bigs in bad spots. What's he going to do against the Pauls, Parkers of the western conference? Yao not closing in on jump shooters. I don't know how we've managed so get so highly ranked in the defensive field goal percentage this season. I would assume that we've dropped lower after this road trip.
     
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    It means that when he's on the court, the opponent averages 105.7 points per 100 possessions. When he's off the court, the opponent only averages 101.4 points per possession.

    In short, the defense is considerably better when he's on the bench.
     
  10. SuperStar

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    I rather see the ppgs of the opponent he is guarding every game. Although it wont be accurate still just like your stat.
     
  11. durvasa

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    That's hard to figure, because T-Mac and Shane cross match so much.
     
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    Exactly what isn't accurate about the stats I provided? I have a feeling if they were in favor of your argument you'd think they were pretty accurate.

    And the stat you want is almost impossible to track accurately because Shane and Tracy share defense assignments most nights. The stat I provided is the best you're going to get, and it doesn't speak well for Tracy's defense.
     
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    Bingo.
     
  14. SuperStar

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    It's just not accurate in terms of Tracys individual defense.
     
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    A lot of his deficiencies on defense have to with help defense. He's slow to rotate to shooters, he hesitates to switch on to players with the ball when there's a screen, his transition defense comes and goes, etc. Just focusing on how many points his man scores isn't really enough, anyways.
     
  16. SuperStar

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    That's why I said the stat I want as well wouldnt be accurate. There's too many other factors hence why I said Cluthcityreturns stats isnt accurate as well.
     
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    LMAO..
    YAO:

    Defense: Pts per 100 Poss. On Court 103.2 Off Court 104.3
    Offense: Pts per 100 Poss. On Court 105.2 Off Court 107.9

    Are you saying having our big man gives us only 1 point defensive advantage? Looking at this number makes no sense... and yes Yao loses that 1 point advantage on offense because we score 2.7 points more with him off the court.

    http://www.82games.com/0708/07HOU15D.HTM
     
  18. durvasa

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    I basically agree. Best way to judge defense is just watch the games.
     
  19. SuperStar

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    102.5 ON Court OFF Court 106.6


    Look at Kawame Brown's numbers.
     
  20. t_mac1

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    tmac's intensity on defense is on and off. he's often guarding scrubs so his focus is not on all the time. if we want him to defend, we have to put him on good players who will challenge him. why will he defend them? he doesn't want to get embarrassed.

    u saw tonight after jaric stripped the ball from him, he hustled back like crazy to block that shot. that's all it is.
     

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