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TMacFans Game Thread: Rockets @ Suns 4/1/2009

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Clutch, Apr 1, 2009.

  1. apxn82

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    didnt watch the game but scola only got 4 pts? what happened?
     
  2. MandM's

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    It is amazing to me how many times ming and shaquille play against each other and it is so even - cancel each other out.
     
  3. MandM's

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    lowery is a better option as a starter. better defense against nash, parker (spurs). brooks gets burned too much and then has to rely on yao helping or someone stepping up to take his man.

    not bashing him. i think he is valuable and productive. just think at thispoint in his career - youth- we are better off starting someone else and brooks coming off bench. especially against really talented pg's
     
  4. xRocketsfanx

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    would've been nice to win this one but hopefully we can at least get home court advantage
     
  5. blender

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    Lowry came at the start of the third when the game was tied 88-88 and when he left at 4:40, the Rockets were down 96-102. Lowry defended Nash during a large part of that, and while Nash wasn't scoring much, he was racking up assists.

    I'm not trying to bash Lowry either, but I don't agree with this assumption that Lowry is obviously the better option than Brooks. They both have positives and negatives.

    And yes, Brooks did miss a couple of shots at the end of the game but he was also part of the Rockets getting it down to a two-point game.
     
  6. Surfguy

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    the rockets lost on purpose to keep positioning ourselves away from a utah match-up in the playoffs. good job! ;)
     
  7. Rookie34

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    Hehehe, imagine that is the truth ... :D
     
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  9. real_egal

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    I thought Phil Jackson laid the perfect plan out there long time ago, on how to play Nash. Nobody is going to shut him down, but you can limit his impact by:

    1. Make him a scorer, don't let him facilitate at will.
    2. Make him play defense. If possible, post him up with a bigger guard.

    What did we do last night?

    1. We let him score 25 points, along with 17 assists! Did we just maximize both of his strengths?
    2. As bad a defensive player as Nash is, he only had 1 foul last night! Well, he couldn't play any defense if he wanted to, because our guards were busy jacking up 3s.

    I thought everyone and their grandmother is clear who the focal point of that Suns team is. What was our plan to play Nash? Yeah, right, we hope outrun him and outshoot him, with the slowest but tallest player and a trigger happy 40% shooter oops Point Guard. Great job, player's coach.
     
  10. JLEW1818

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    Glad I got that one out of my system.
     
  11. platinum

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    Everybody but RA knows how to use Lowry and Brooks. If he insists on that, rockets have no way out of 1st round.

    Than Yao shall leave.
     
  12. roxfan123

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    Last time AB made Nash running circles together with him, this time AB did not. Playing with a Nash who only needs to care about offense is like playing with fire. Good coach indeed. Timely timeout too. Frankly I do not see how AB fits better with Yao as too many times Yao had the position and he failed to give Yao the ball.
     
  13. JLEW1818

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    Because we don't have a point guard. We have 1 who likes to shoot the most on our team. And throw the ball at Yao's toes
     
  14. Tsquare

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    dose anyone have a vid on the oop that Von Wafer got right after Shaq's? those two plays came one after the other.

    ps. great game by Von and wtf was Rick doing letting Nash go off on Brooks when he could've put Ron or someone big enough on him to disrupt his shots atleast!!! He must not remember the last game against them when Nash did the same **** to us and almost won the game with a shot over Yao. You gotta be a fool if you just sit your ass there letting Steve Nash ****ing pick us apart and not atleast let someone else(Ron) guard him.

    As you can see I don't give a **** about Rick and his coaching and I really think the guy is very overated: much like that Jazz coach. Just pissed that we didn't take advantage of the Spurs losing the other nite. It's like they're (Spurs) always a step ahead.
     
  15. leebigez

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    Maybe I missed the game or something and of course we got people blaming brooks again. Everytime Lowry entered, their lead increased. He couldn't stop penetration of nash, the help was terrible and after all that, they were right there.

    I've said it time and time again that the rox have no versitility and they're defense has been avg all year. When the suns walked out a sf at the 4, adelman shouldve brought in wafer and sild artgest over and sat scola. Since artest is the only guy that gives the rox any versitility, last night wouldve been a great time to use it.

    The old addage make scorers passers and make passers scorers hold true for nash. You can't give him both because he will hurt you. If you make him a scorer, then it takes away somewhat the other players, but unlike the rockets, hill,richardson,and barnes don't need someone to get them a shot. Like I've said also, when teams single yao, it takes scola out the game. He's not a guy that can consistently beat one on one and create. He feeds off the attention of yao. Last night, they singled yao and that deleted scola.

    Of course, im still waiting or wanting yao to make shaq look old, but once again, they cancelled each other out. If yao gets cancelled out, the team will struggle to win games. This isn't a overly talented team and he's one advantage the rox are suppose to have every night. Last night, it was a wash. Shane played well offensively and was in the flow but their wing men really did a number on us. Its just 1 game, but unless the lakers just don't focus or are still looking back and a embarrings lost or so, the rockets will have a 2 game losing streak.
     
  16. bigballerj

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    The main reason why the Rox lost is they NEVER switched up their defense. They never went to a zone, a half court trap or a full court press. It is a recipe for disaster when you continually play man-to-man defense with 2 guys (Yao, AB) being liabilites.

    They are going to get killed by the Lakers if they don't mix things up.
     
  17. ibm

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    your contrarian style of thinking is really something.

    our defense was the best in the league since the alston trade, according to morey. granted it was horrible in the first half last night, but it wasn't "average all season" as you suggested.

    lowry played only 17 minutes and most of the time he played with the reserve players, aka deke or hayes and company.

    shaq was putting up all star numbers and has been working the hardest in his life lately. but of course, yao's 20/14 to cancel him out is of course not good enough. we lost because yao did not put up 30/20, never mind shaq has an elite pg at his assistance.

    ab is amazing. he's speedier than iverson of old, his shooting is better than nash, and his finish at the rim was unmatched in the entire league. too bad we wasted his talent and don't have any really good players he can pass the rock to....
     
  18. blender

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    Maybe I'm remembering it wrong, but I think Adelman did do this in the fourth. At one point he had a frontcourt of Artest and Hayes to go with Lowry, Wafer and Barry, but not for long. That was partly when the Suns made their run IIRC.

    Landry would've been perfect for this situation, though. (I'm surprised how often I've said this to myself this season.)
     
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    ab's shooting is better than nash's? hmm...let's see: from yesterday ab (36%) vs nash (60%). for the season: ab (41%) vs nash (49%). no idea where you got your data from. ab isn't amazing, he's average at best. not saying he can't improve. he might be speedier, but if he can't finish or he can't make the appropriate decision to start the plays, then he's nothing compared to ai. don't make that comparison at all. he NEEDS practice.
     
  20. rocketman1979

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    Can we sign Steve Nash and trade Brooks. We need a pg that can score and pass. Brooks does neither. Sure he has some big game here and there but he is inconsistent with his scoring, and shoots just as bad or worse than Alston. Oyeah his passing skills are really bad, he needs to learn from the master Steve Nash. :D
     

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