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Tmac wants to give up All-Star spot

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Seven, Jan 21, 2008.

  1. rofflesaurus

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    20 bux says t-mac conveniently "re-injures" himself right before all-star weekend :D
     
  2. ai_111

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    I dont think that he should give up his spot because we, fans, have been voting like crazy so that we could watch him in that all-star and now, he s saying that he want to give up his spot.

    Yes, players like Chris Paul, Brandan Roy, Steve Nash played better than him this year, but the voting proves that fans dont want to see them and they want see T-mac playing. Some players are more fun to watch and an all-star game is for fun and for enjoying. People enjoys more to see T-Mac.
    So he should play for his fans.
     
  3. Sweet Lou 4 2

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    say what? maybe you need to stop trying to psychoanalyze the guy....


    Just sounds like you have a beef with t-mac and no matter what he does you'll dog him. And your sig makes no sense, how do you know what this BBS was like before all the hate if you're just a rookie. Trust me, back before this forum got flooded by YOF there was a lot of smart basketball discussion going on. Now every thread has turned into a "how can I use this to snub T-mac"?

    Every thread on this board turns into a bash t-mac thread.
     
  4. Sweet Lou 4 2

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    Yes, he's faked his injury just so he can avoid the all-star game because he doesn't feel safe in New Orleans.

    By the way, have you notices that t-mac only comes back to play against the soft teams? Like he skipped the game aginast philly whom we lost to before because he knew he'd look bad, so he decided instead to come back against San Antonio which he knew he could beat easily.

    how "convenient"

    the next thing you know, after the season is over, he's going to miraculously be back to 100% at the start of next season. Suspicious huh?
     
  5. wekko368

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    As I said before, if he claimed he was injured, no one would doubt him. Before you continue telling me what I already know, why dont you read what I write?

    And since when, after joining the rockets, has he ever clearly not been injured? He started having back problems. Then elbow problems. Then knee problems. For a guy who clearly isnt injured, he sure has a missed a lot of games this season.

    I know you're probably thinking "he WAS injured; he's fine now".

    But with all his ailments, if he were to say he were injured, no one would doubt him. in fact, everyone would be used to it. By the way, I wrote this sentence again in case you overlooked it the first time.

    And honestly, I'm sure doing something of that nature would earn a lot of people's respect. Or at least stem the feelings of disdain for him. Like it or not, a lot of houstonians dislike the guy. can you really blame them? he admits quitting on his team in orlando. he's missed so much time due to injuries. last year, its all "on him" and he fails to deliver. it seems like he refused to adapt to adelman's system. he cant make free throws. he settles for jump shots even though he's perfectly capable of driving the ball.

    and when the rockets went on a nice little streak without him this year, instead of congratulating them, he tells the media that they werent playing against elite competition.

    but no....he's a great guy b/c he wants to give up his all-star spot but seemingly cant.
     
  6. wekko368

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    Actually, its very plausible that Mcgrady wanted to get back in the action before the rockets got too successful without him.

    If we lose, its because the spurs are a great team and no one expects us to beat them. If we win, its because of mcgrady's return. So what exactly is the downside of mcgrady suiting up against the spurs?

    For the rockets to go out and win without him (or even lose a close game against an elite team), it becomes very believable that we'd be a great team if he were replaced (when he's injured, thats a 20 million dollar hole in our roster).
     
  7. wekko368

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    Yes he should play for his fans. He shouldnt be telling the media that he wishes he could give up his spot but cant because its against the rules.
     
  8. jc1988

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    i think he should....like he said, he needs more time to let his body heal.....right now, he has to play 4 games in a week...

    all-star break will be huge for his body to recover a bit...before we make a final run to get a good spot during the playoff.
     
  9. t_mac1

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    he's still injured so he can't possibly do that.
     
  10. Sweet Lou 4 2

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    ahh yes. he had to come back for a good team to make sure we didn't win without him, because if we had, he couldn't stand that thought. So he unfaked his injury enough to come back - very true i see it now. but now that we won, he's pretending to play through this pain....the limp and wincing in timeouts is all an act against seattle. He's trying to show us all that he's tough because that's the criticism he has lately. And at the same time say he's injured until the all-star break to avoid the very dangerous new orleans.

    so after the all star break, you are saying his injury will be healed correct? But what is the story if he's still faking it after new orleans? I don't understand that scenario....can you help us?
     
  11. durvasa

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    Screw the fans. If they really cared about him, they'd let him rest during the All-star break.
     
  12. Storm Surge

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    Is half of this thread sarcastic or a bunch of tmac haters and yofs?
     
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    Enjoy the show. It like watching American Idol. Most of the contestants know they suck, but they go to the auditions anyway.
     
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    Fixed
     
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    do i think cp3 deserves to start? definitely.

    but the fans voted tmac in for a reason ... to entertain them. cp3 doesnt do the fancy off the backboard dunks.

    but as a rockets fan, i'd say tmac should be let to rest :)

    i think more players should follow christ bosh's footsteps and advertise for ppl to vote for them.
     
  16. wekko368

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    Think what you like. But the facts are that he belittled the rockets winning streak w/o him by saying they werent facing elite teams like san antonio. And then, during the days preceding the SA game, he says he's too injured to play. Somehow though, his injury subsides and allows him to play.

    Can you imagine how embarassed he'd be if we had beaten SA without him? And his wincing and limping probably is an act. Either that or he has the pain tolerance of a little girl. How many stars prance around like they're in pain in order to remind us that they're toughing it out and playing through it?

    I dont know what'll happen after the all star break. I cant tell the future. I can only analyze whats happened in the past to make guesses for the future. And whats happened in the past is that he's quit on his team. So by that logic, if the rockets find themselves out of the playoff race with 20 games left, i wouldnt be surprised if tmac's back problems flared up.

    You would probably understand the scenario better if you werent looking at tmac through homer eyes.
     
  17. bbjai

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    Do you not comprehend the post I am writing?
    He wants to rest his knee, his playing injured regardless. his playing with pain in his knee for the sake of winning more games. The all star game represents a break.

    BUT

    you can't miss an allstar game without actually being legitimately injured. He needs to be listed as inactive on the the team roster in order for him to miss the all star game, which would also mean he would be inactive for Houston games too. You get fined for missing the all star game for a illegitimate reason. He wants to stay "active" status whilst injured. Its just a simple technicality. You can't just CHOOSE to not play. There are always consequences. Its called Rules.

    And Im sick of you all paying out his comments about the New Orleans game. Yao said exactly the same thing, so did Battier, so did Rafer. So what they are devaluing the win streak that they earned themselves? What do you expect T-mac to say? Oh definetly we will beat New Orleans like there is no tomorrrow with our current form and play. Did he ever say oh yes we need me to beat New Orleans. Stop making up crap that doesn't exist. Yao Ming has missed heaps of time due to injuries as well. Should I call him Yao Lady as well? Yao settles for tiny layups that get blocked by Nate Robinson instead of dunking it. Should i take that out for discusssion? No cause Yao is a great player and Im not going to hold his weak points against him. Injuries happen. To my count Chris Paul has been injured roughly the same amount of time as T-mac has. Is he quitting on the team ZOMG?????? Gilbert Arenas said it will be a tough test to see if the Wizards are any good to maintain their win streak without him. Is he disrespecting his teamates ZOMG???

    I love the selective hearing on the board. I love how people just isolate his comments and dissect them word by word. This isn't a race for the whitehouse its comments before and after a game for crying out loud.
     
  18. Quiksilver

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    Wow, what a nice guy. :)
     
  19. wekko368

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    I understand you fine. He probably is "legitimately" injured. Why else would he be wincing and limping? Dont act like he has no choice but to play in the game. He can choose not to if he is willing to go on the injured list.

    You're actually bringing up gilbert arenas? The guy said he would opt out of his contract to test the market. I wouldnt want that guy for a teammate.

    Didnt yao miss substantial time last season b/c of a broken leg? A broken bone is much different than any of the injuries mcgrady has had. And chris paul missed time b/c of a severe ankle sprain. thats not a chronic injury like the ones that seem to affect mcgrady.

    and this year, yao has been taking fewer layups and dunking more. yao is a great player b/c of his work ethic. but one play doesnt define a player. and of course you should hold a player's deficiencies against him. if a player isnt held accountable for his mistakes, how else can he improve?

    if you think a player's comments should be ignored, then you shouldnt even post in this thread since its about his comments.
     
  20. wekko368

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    Do you comprehend the post you're writing?
     

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