RA said he doesn't know where to find the minutes to play Tmac. I don't want to argue anecdotally how tmac is better than Ariza, and I know morey is a big stat guy so lets look at some numbers. Code: Rk Player Season Age G MP PER TS% eFG% ORB% DRB% TRB% AST% STL% BLK% TOV% USG% ORtg DRtg OWS DWS WS 1 Trevor Ariza 2009-10 24 29 1131 12.8 .466 .439 3.2 14.3 8.5 14.9 2.5 1.1 11.8 22.8 96 105 -0.2 1.4 1.2 2 Tracy McGrady 2008-09 29 35 1181 16.3 .492 .433 2.1 12.7 7.6 25.2 1.9 0.9 11.1 24.5 105 104 0.9 1.8 2.7 We all know that tmac sucked last year but let us consider the numbers. Ariza has a per of 12.9 which means he worse than the avg player in the NBA whose per is 15. Even on one leg tmac was still an above avg offensive player with his passing, rebounding,etc. Tmac has a better TS% while their effective shooting % are similar. Ariza is a slightly better rebounder. Tmac is significantly better than Ariza at creating assists. Ariza does do a much better job of getting steals. They both get blocks about the same. Despite handling the ball a lot more than Ariza, Tmac turns the ball over less than ariza. Think about this one. It is not hard to imagine since ariza can't dribble. Their usage is pretty close but tmac's was slightly higher. Now let us consider their offensive rating: tmac's is 105 and ariza's is 95. For comparison's sake the team's avg is 107.6. Ariza is by far the worst among all its regular rotation. Now let us look at defensive rating: Tmac's is 104 vs ariza's 105. How is it possible? Is tmac better than ariza on D? The big reason is yao ming. The rockets as a team took a hit when the great wall went out. For all the criticism yao takes, the 7'6 guy back there does make a big difference on D. As a team the rockets give up 106 so Ariza is a little better then average. Chuck hayes and surprisingly scola are our best defensive guy, but that might because scola plays with hayes. For comparison our Drating last year was 104 so tmac was about avg. So Lets give this one to Ariza, but it isn't as big as you would think. Finally going to win shares, Tmac has almost twice the winshares as ariza despite only playing 6 more games. Of course the team was better last year. So if you think about it Tmac with one leg was a MUCH better offensive player than Ariza. On the other hand, Ariza while a better defender than tmac is not a much better defensive player than Tmac, at least based on the statistics. Even anecdotally Ariza blows his assignments too much like last night. In conclusion, if RA needs to know where to find minutes for tmac just take 80% of Ariza's minutes and give them to tmac.
Tracy injured last year was better than Tracy coming back from injury this year. Therefore the stats are not really all that helpful. DD
If Tracy plays hard on defense, he deserves over 30 minutes a game. His offense is just too good to pass on.
b/c tracy GOT MINUTES. and let's be real, we're winning IN SPITE of trevor ariza like we did with rafer. trevor ariza is an awful player since the first 2 games of the season. awful. people will point ot his defense as his calling card, but even that is getting worse. his defense v. the nets was just atrocious. thank god they're just a terrible team.
to add, adelman does not want to play tmac. that is why it is darn so hard to find minutes. he rather play taylor in the 2nd half v. the clips rather than tmac. that's all you need to know. let's just wait until a trade or an official "tmac sit down" so all these threads can stop.
No, because Tracy was healthier.....he is just S L O W this year......because of the surgery, confidence, everything. He just is not healthy....especially mentally. DD
You're asking the wrong question here. The real question should be, since Ariza plays, why do all the players that come here have the green light to take their shooting percentages to career lows ? First it was Artest now Ariza.
I don't understand all the hate on Ariza. He is the one having to take the low-percentage shots at the end of shot-clocks now. He is the one playing heavy minutes every game. He is the one taking on the toughest perimeter defensive assignments. Yeah his ballhandling and decision-making are shaky at best. But he does open the offense for us with his drives and does make quite a few good interior passes for layups every game. He has been a significant part of our 18 win total.
The question is more "Who would you rather play: Jermaine Taylor or Tracy McGrady?" Strictly in terms of what they can contribute, without all the drama and conditions, I'd say McGrady.
McGrady apologists hate Ariza b/c they see Ariza as a threat to McGrady. Their idiocy allows them to believe that if McGrady plays heavy minutes, he will elevate the Rockets to championship caliber. As such, since Ariza takes the minutes that McGrady apologists feel should go to McGrady, they hate on Ariza.
^ wekko, actually read all the posts about ariza. it's not just "tmac apologists." it's A LOT of rocket fans. dude is just stinking it up right now. rocket fans actually want those minutes to go to budinger before tmac came back, and they (i) still do. give cbud 30 mins and ariza 20.
If the Rockets are looking to ramp up McGrady's minutes, whether to showcase him or to get him to a point where is a consistent contributor, giving him Ariza's minutes is a natural solution. Surely you agree that Ariza's level of play does not warrant 38+ minutes a night.
I am rockets fan not tof or a aof or a yof. Did you even bother looking at the stats? All I hear from Ariza fans is he is young and will get better, look at the stats, and tell me how a healthy ariza is better than a one legged tmac now?
So you are saying he doesn't deserve 30 minutes a game? Because the reality is Tracy McGrady's defense is just a light bulb. When he turns it on it's not even that bright since he's not even athletically gifted anymore at least compared to Prime Tracy and I wouldn't say he's a smart defender either. Ariza proved to absolutely neutralize Hedo last season in the Finals and made clutch steals after clutch steals in the Western Conference Finals, I don't see that with Tracy. Then again he's never made it that far.
His attitude is worse on the court. He always complains not getting the ball throwing his hands up in the air.
