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Tmac update..

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by macmackal, Dec 1, 2009.

  1. Depressio

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    Hey, wait, didn't you make a thread about how Morey was fooling all of us and McGrady would be healthy/potentially resigned cheaply in 2010?

    I'd link it, but I can't use the search. :p

    That being said, yes, resigning him would be a waste of money unless he shows something and comes cheaply. He won't be giving the Rockets a deal though, that's for sure.
     
  2. DaDakota

    DaDakota Balance wins
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    Yeah, I thought he would be ready, did not realize the organization had moved on already.

    I figured they would bow down to his wishes like always, but have been refreshingly surprised that they did not.

    DD
     
  3. amaru

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    4 Stars on a T-mac thread?!?!
     
  4. QdoubleA

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    I'm a Jergens man myself.
     
  5. john_l

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    Here is another way to look at it.

    1) Tracey drinks from the fountain of youth, regains his hops and becomes T-Mac. You can pay more to keep him than anyone else, but you still don't want to because of injury history and advancing age. You waive him, losing his cap hold, and after waiving everyone else, you can sign an MLE type player.

    2) You trade Tracey to a team that is far enough under the cap that his expiring contract, when you waive him, gives that team enough room to make a max offer to another team. Mac is worth a Max salary slot to them, and hopefully that translates into significant value coming back on our side of the trade.

    So Tracey isn't worth as much to the Rockets now as he is to other teams.

    I think Morey ends up looking for a younger player with max potential where acquiring Bird rights is an asset and takes back a bad contract expiring in 2011 to create the LT space you need for that potential max deal.
     
  6. BrooksBall

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    But... but... but... DD is right 99% of the time!

    :grin:
     
  7. stonecold999

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    DD is just another anti-Tmac guy
     
  8. Depressio

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    I'm pleasantly surprised they haven't.

    I still hold out hope that McGrady can return and contribute in a big way this season. Of course, the ideal is that he does that, we win a Championship, and re-sign him for cheap money. At least that's what I dreamed last night.

    I think it's more likely he'll return and contribute but not in a big way and we trade him.

    I think it's MOST likely that he won't return and we'll trade him.

    You still hope for something better than reality though -- it never hurts.
     
  9. Easy

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    This is how Adelman appears to be like in the article.

    But the source also was quoted to say, "It is not going to end well." Sounds like Adelman was not going to play TMac and TMac was going to make a big fuss of it.

    Like I said, unless Adelman is being diplomatic here, the two accounts don't square with each other. And I don't agree with DD. I think Adelman has always been quite straightforward, especially if he is pissed by some players. Perhaps Morey told Adelman to tone down his displeasure with TMac to retain TMac's trade value.
     
  10. Depressio

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    I suppose I shouldn't have been surprised he wasn't, but he's correct more often than most of this board and he's usually confident in his correctness (which makes it fun to show that he isn't correct!).

    DaDakota: The Richard Justice of ClutchFans?
     
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    So now you have insight about baggage and disruption now right? Guess who has posted the most in this thread? I'll give you a hint, he knows what the organization thinks about tracy :p
     
  12. Obito

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    Are you being sarcastic?
     
  13. Carl Herrera

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    It could be Morey telling Adelman to tone it down. It could also be that the "it's not going to end well" comment is the opinion/guess, perhaps a well-reasoned one, of Clutch or his source rather than something based on a definite declaration by Adelman of his intentions. It may very well end in a divorce, but I am not sure if the parties involved have made up their mind 100% yet.
     
  14. mjharleem22

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    just one problem, its not like the rockets practice on a consistent basis during the season. Whats have they had like 2 or 3 practices so far, mabye 4, but thats not a lot compared to the amount of time we are into the season. I am actually more interested in how mcgrady is training individually. They keep saying rehab, but they also make it out to be that he isnt in nba shape yet. So what if he is rehabbing, then that means he is still recovering from the knee, but if he has been cleared to practice i believe he is working himself into game shape. I wish they would clarify what position t-mac is in right now, rehabbing, or getting into shape?. they only say its a process..WTF is that..
     
  15. DaDakota

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    They are protecting Tmac from himself, that is what that is......if they give a date and he isn't ready, then it looks bad, if they give a date, and the Rockets don't think he is ready, then they look bad.

    We the fans have no RIGHT to know, we just support the team, and when the organization thinks he is ready, and they are ready to play him, they will.

    We just have to sit back and wait.......some of us think he is done, others think not...but at the end of the day, we just have to wait and cheer for the guys that are on the floor.

    And, Tmac may play again for the Rockets, or he may not...who cares?

    DD
     
  16. xiki

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    He may; but for how long?

    His situation is such that as a Rox fan, I care. A lot. And that's the downside of fandom, eh?
     
  17. DaDakota

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    But as a Rox fan, just cheer for the Rox, and don't worry about what you can't control.

    If Tmac is not ready, or the organization has decided to mothball him, who cares, nothing any of us can do about it but move on and cheer for the team.

    DD
     
  18. amaru

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    As The World Turns: The Houston Rockets edition continues.........
     
  19. mjharleem22

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    i dont know why t-mac needs to apologize to the fans for, but i do understand with the organization(but he has apologized to them). I think everybody mishandled mcgrady's situation last year. I just dont think its fair that ppl are putting everything that happened last year on mcgrady's shoulders. And in doing that they are being even more skeptical of anything that this guy decides to do. i agree with elston turner, that the media puts more weight on the subject than it really is. He said it himself it isnt really a distraction, what player doesnt want to play. yea you can agrue some of how mcgrady has approached the situation but can you comletely blame him for scheduling a goal date. I mean how many times did you hear from the organization that there isnt really a timetable on his return. They never said coming back sooner wasnt out of the question.
     
  20. mjharleem22

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    TITANS BABY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
     

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