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Tmac trade that just became available.

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by trugoy, Dec 21, 2007.

  1. Rockets4279

    Rockets4279 Member

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    Very true but i also see that as one of the Rockets problems is so many guys who can create on their own, thats why the ball dont move as much as it should.

    Tracy/Bonzi/Brooks/Francis/James all can create on their own and that is a problem with having tomany.
     
  2. Henke2323

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    This is the stupides ****ing topic i ever read!!!!
     
  3. goyao11

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    1st problem i see here is why would Memphis trade Gasol, Navarro, and Miller for Mac? I think they're trying to emphasize speed/transition/shooting and trying to create a youth movement; getting a oldish scorer who doesn't run and doesn't shoot all that great would instantly kill their system. They might trade away 2 of the three at most, but all three is a pipe dream.

    2nd problem is that even if all those trade go through, we have no defense at all. Yao is okay at controlling the paint/altering shots, but the two millers, gasol, and maggette are all soft on defense. We'd be unable to stop anybody defensively, and, when our jumpshots fail (its basically going to be a jumpshooting team), we'd be in a crapload of trouble.
     
  4. trugoy

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    Your trade advocates trading T-Mac. Your trade will not work. Here is why it won't work. (one or more of the following may apply to your particular trade, and it may have other flaws not listed below.)

    (x) Team receiving T-MAC is rebuilding and want expiring contracts and/or draft picks
    (x) No team will build around injury prone T-MAC as the best player on their team
    ( ) The players you are trading for have a higher value that T-MAC
    ( ) You overvalue T-Mac's trade value
    ( ) You undervalue the trade value of the young player on a rookie contract with high potential
    (x) You think that mike James has positive trade value
    ( ) You overvalue Shane Battier's trade value

    Specifically your trade fails to account for

    ( ) No Team will trade their best player for T-Mac
    (x) Team has a better player than T-MAc at that position already
    ( ) Trade is not possible because of CBA restrictions
    (x) Team is rebuilding therefore would have no need for T-MAC
    ( ) The Team will actually be worse off after this trade
    ( ) Gilbert Arenas has a higher trade value than T-MAc, therefore washington will not even trade them straightup
    ( ) If New Jersey is trading Jason Kidd, that means they are rebuilding, therefore they would want expiring contracts/young players/draft picks
    ( ) Kobe/Lebron/Carmelo/ Any other player that is the best player on their team has a higher trade value that Tmac


    Furthermore, this is what I think about you:

    (x) Sorry dude, but I don't think it would work.
    ( ) This is a stupid trade, and you're a stupid person for suggesting it.
    ( ) I'm going to find out where you live and burn your house down!
     
  5. Rockets4279

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    Mike James has negative value. You trade him with the valuable pieces. Battier and Head because Philly needs shooting and more defense. Miller dont have much value because of his age and contract. This is a fair deal for both teams.

    Memphis cant get nothing more than McGrady. Who is going to give up there future for Gasol ?? Rudy Gay is not better than Tracy right now and Rudy Gay playes the 3 spot, not the 2. Gasol and T-Mac value is almost = so maybe 2 for 1 is more realistic. I only added Navarro because of Gasol and shooting is the problem for Houston. If they are rebuilding then they rebuild around T-Mac and Gay.
     
  6. krnxsnoopy

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    rockets lookin good tonight
     
  7. trugoy

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    What philly needs is to dump andre miller's contract so they can become a serious player on the FA market this season, they will only trade dre for 1st round picks and expirings. They are not a team that needs to make little changes here and there, they are a team that needs to get serious franchise level talent. Battier and Head make no sense at all for them.

    Mcgrady makes no sense for memphis at all, they are building their team around rudy gay and mike conley, why would they trade for someone who is basically gonna take touches away from those guys. If they do trade Gasol, they will want expirings/cap relief/young players on rookie contracts/1st round picks. They have no need for mcgrady at all.
     
  8. johnrox

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    tmac is not going to be traded
     
  9. thelasik

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    Werd man, all the haters need to STFU and realize the team is nothing without McGrady.
     
  10. Rockets4279

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    Any team could use McGrady who is the ultimate team player. Houston dont need him anymore in my eyes because he is a half court player in a full court system. The only reason he is on the court is for his playmaking ability. When he isnt scoring he is pretty much useless with these rotations we got. If he cant score then he cant help the defense none. McGrady still has a good 5 years left in him, but Memphis will not be able to get anything better than McGrady for Gasol. Its not like Boston where a team is going to blow up their Roster for a Garnett. Lets be real Gasol isnt a Garnett. His value is not even better than McGrady just like with all the injuries. His age he is only 27. Memphis is basically upgrading there starting 2 spot for a guy who wants out, and getting a guy who has more value than Gasol. If im not mistaken McGrady value 1-50 in this league was at like 28 where Gasol value was at like 39 something like that. Basically Memphis would be trading for a player who has more value. Sure they could consider the trade.

    As for Philly they dont have pieces on the market to land a franchise player. Andre Miller is the only one available. Nobody is going to just trade them expirings for his contract because those other teams would want to hold on to their own expirings. Take in to cosideration A) His age. B) His contract is to big to be traded for just expirings. Unlike Houston who has 1 or maybe 2 to offer in such a deal. If Philly could move Andre for just expirings then i wish them luck. If they are trying to trade him for equal value and a couple guys who have decent value and a expiring then im pretty sure they would consider it.
     
  11. trugoy

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    Mcgrady's value is basically declining every season because of his age and injury history. No team will trade for him as some sort of talent swap, the only teams that will trade for him are teams that think that by getting him will put them over the top towards a championship. No team will rebuild with mcgrady because by the time you get the pieces around him, he will be too old.

    Memphis would not trade for mcgrady in a millions years, if they do decide to trade gasol, they would want cap relief/young players/draft picks. They are a terrible team and the best they can do with mcgrady will be first round playoff exit. Meanwhile, they will be r****ding the growth of rudy gay and mike conley.

    As for phillie, if they do trade andre miller, they will want expirings/young players/draft picks because they certainly wouldn't want to take on LONGER contracts than miller's which is what you trade for battier would do for them. They would rather just keep miller than trade him for longer contracts.
     
  12. JDMDC2

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    how is Mcgrady a half court player if anything he is better in transition then when Yao is in the paint. If anything Yao is the half court player. And how is Mcgrady useless if he isn't scoring. If i remember correctly from tonights game he gave out 8 assists while only scoring 20 points. Its funny how people devalue the importance of Mcgrady to the team look at the record with and without him compared to without Yao. How is Yao with role players gonna be better than having Tmac on the team. I repeat Yao can not carry the team. If anything we should trade our abundance of guards for at least a solid point guard that can actually shoot. Do you see how much teams sag off of gayfer alston and with Yao in the paint how is anyone gonna drive in. I dunno about you guys but when your teamates cant shoot a damn its hard to drive when teams are just packing it in the paint
     

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