TMAC told RA that he was sore in the Cavaliers game

Holy crap.

The play where T-Mac got a steal then SLOWED DOWN to pass to Rafer is T-Mac's persona in a nutshell.

What other player in the entire NBA have you seen SLOW DOWN on a fast break? This guy would walk a fast break if he could.

That better be the SOREST knee in the history of basketball, otherwise stop making excuses for T-Mac.

 

Tracy needs to lift weights if he wants to see his handles, his jumper, and his explosiveness ever again. Start out small because their is no way he can do his old routine where he left off. This will rebuild the strength in his muscles, knee, and shoulder.

Just two months and he would be back to his level of play in 2005. One month could be sufficient as well if he pushes himself.

 

It's interesting how all of you know Tmac's pain better than he does, and know how to deal with it better than professional trainers and doctors.

 

Don't you know? This forum is full of doctors. I scrap my knee once on the concrete while playing basketball so that makes me an expert on Tmac's situation. He's just lazy.

 

All the doctors said it would be fine for Tracy to play on it. Tracy is the one who wanted to sit out.

 

Why did TMac have to tell Adelman that his knee was sore until the 3rd quarter?

I don't know but I think the longer he played the worse the knee got and it affected his game play by stopping the ball or making dumb or lazy passes.

But Rick Adelman should've never put him back in the game, did he really have to hear it from TMac to take him out of the game?

 

Yes, you are right.

DD

 

I think it may have been that knee to knee contact a couple of games ago because after that game, not sure who it was, he came back gimpy once again.

 

I agree. When we play a game, than get a day off and than play the other night it is ok. Even if we play one back toi back and than get longer rest. It is ok for T-Mac. Because as you said, it does let him build the strenght in the knee.

But excuse me, 4 games in 5 nights is brutal. you play back to back and than get only one day rest. and not really rest. you need to get to another city and you play another back to back. everybody would be TIRED after something like that.

 

Well, I have played basketball all of my life. I think I would know more about the game of basketball than a doctor. T-Mac said he can't work out because of his knee/shoulder, but he has to start out small or they will ache when he picks up the 50 pounders or when he tries to do 450-500 pounds the leg press.

I have the same build as Tracy except I am 6'3" 170 pounds. When I am not working out, my handles aren't there, my jumper isn't as smooth because my legs don't give me any lift, and I can't dunk.

When I am working out, everything just comes easier. I can jump and simply flip my wrist and the ball swishes in. Dribbling comes a lot easier, and I can dunk.

Tracy has to lead by example or else his teammates will think this guy makes $20 million, why should I have to do anything more than him?

 

I forgot one thing.

I am listening to Morey's interview. Even he said, he felt like Tracy should have taken that game off.

Obviously those 4 games was the reason why Tracy had so many problems.

Look, he looked FINE against Nets. His jumper was rollin'. He was like 5/6 with those jumpshots. One time he missed half court shot and one time he mised a layup ( i tought he was fouled). against cavs, he didn't have much left in him.

 

I thought the play where he stopped the fast break before it started was as glaring a window into his health as any.


I have never ever seen him pull up when he simply had to race the defender (who was behind him) to the bucket.

If you are predisposed to thinking ill of him, you will view that play similarly. Any neutral person would know immediately that something was wrong with him physically. He should not have played last night.

 

It's no use, buddy. The anti-McGrady hysteria has already surpassed all reasonable bounds of logic at this point. People have resorted to making up lies about him on the go and throwing them out there as "facts". It's called "cognitive dissonance" -- when people are so utterly convinced about a false opinion, they resort to making up their own alternate realities to support their refuted arguments. They'll be nowhere to be found come Friday when McGrady suddenly looks good again, and they'll be crawling out of the woodwork again the next time his knee gives up on him. Rinse, lather, repeat.

 

This is not exactly true...

The rehab that T_Mac needs has to do more with Pilates than pure weights. He has to strengthen the inner muscles of the knee and unfortunatley pure weight lifting will not help that.

Now t_mac1 has been preaching the same versus but it seems no one is listening. T_Mac is coming off of 4 games in 5 nights and even with a healthy body most guys are going to struggle.

T_Man

 

I understand what you are talking about.

But you also have to understand 'those' people. IT IS FRUSTRATING to watch Tracy playing like that. He was exhausted, and he really didn't make the right decision. He should have said : Ok, I lost too much during those 3 games, and I am not gonna be myself because I don't have much left. I need some rest so I won't play just not to hurt this team'

 

Excatly. Yao is a great example of that, so is Ron.

Yao played ONLY 22 minutes and down the stretch he missed like 3 or 4 really EASY shots for him. It is fatigue.

Ron had a nice 1st half but in the 2nd? 1 point? It is called fatigue as well.

 

That is understandable, but it is equally frustrating when people lose all sense of perspective. You can't say McGrady made a bad decision by choosing to play, when you have previously criticized him for sitting out games. If McGrady had sat out last night, these same people would still be calling him a quitter -- in fact, the cries would have been louder.

Battier looked equally bad last night -- uncharacteristically bad, in fact. Battier has missed more games than McGrady this season -- in fact, unlike McGrady, he sat out the entire preseason and a large number of games to start the season. Both Battier and McGrady were described by the Chronicle as swelling so badly that they could barely walk when they got off the plane. So Battier should be getting blamed for "quitting" last night too, right? Wrong. Battier doesn't make $21 million per year.

 

I've been saying the same exact thing since day one if you don't feel healthy why the hell are you coming back early we don't need an injured player on the floor who gets a steal and doesn't go in for the dunk instead opting to stop and setup the offense freakin ridiculous

 

perhaps a bit of a tangent, but battiers reputation is that of blue collar, and mcgrady's reputation is pretty much the opposite (whether warranted or not), agreed? In actuality, how much of a difference in effort level do you actually think exists between these two players? I tend to believe Battier does not have effort issues, where mcgrady still does. what do you think?

I will even pay more attention going forward, but I don't see battier giving up on plays the way mcgrady has, and I am not even talking about this cavs game.

I also acknowledge that it could very well be that mcgrady's demeanor, brutal honestly, and 21 mill is what makes him the most prone to being ripped by rocket's fans.

 

I see that you may have a better understanding of basketball than those doctors, but the doctors know how the body works better than you. You may feel that way after a workout but has your body went through the same things as Tmac's body? He is simply fatigued guys.