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Tmac to have surgery tomorrow

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by The_Yoyo, Feb 23, 2009.

  1. ElPigto

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    Thank you, I realize I can suck at making at points at times which is why I try not to post too much. :)
     
  2. ibm

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    granted we are all biased to a degree in one way or another, especially in sports.

    but the "likableness" (if there is such a word) of the underlying athlete involved does make a difference. dig out the threads from a year ago when yao's season ended and see how most reacted and felt. now compare that to how people are responding now. justified or not, that huge difference is a fact; and i suspect there is a reason to that.
     
  3. JeopardE

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    Oh, your logic makes sense now.

    If you show compassion for someone who happens to be wealthy, then you're an immature kid.

    If only more people were like you. The world would be such a sunny place!
     
  4. scalper

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    why do the Tmac fans always bring up Yao?

    im sure most of us and the Yao fans... would feel the same way if Yao got a potential career injury... o thats too bad... but life goes on... he is rich has a wife yada yada yada...

    I know this is a basketball forum...

    but in the end these guys get paid millions to put a ball through a basket

    and the Rox organization is in it to make money


    You should admit your bias.... nothing wrong with hero worship... Tmac is a fine example... but for me someone like Nelson Mandela would be someone id would want identify myself with...
     
  5. badgerfan

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    People close to him died. He's got medical issues. Is that unusual suffering? Or is that just life as normal?

    My guess is that you're so young that you haven't had to go through people around you coming down with cancer, being involved with car accidents, going into the hospital, passing away. That is, unfortunately, just a normal part of being alive. Here's something else you can look forward to: as your body gets older it starts breaking down and all the terrible things you did to it when you were younger come back to haunt you.
     
  6. ibm

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    had you posted this way earlier, i wouldn't have disagreed a lot. i am just a little sensitive when i see words like "self-righteous" or "jealous self-loathers", etc.

    every human being will die. that's one of the few certainties in this mostly uncertain world. as a result, all of us will have to have the terrible experience that our loved ones will pass away. it's nothing unique to mcgrady. yeah, he's had pains, but so did i and the guy next door. he's having a MINOR surgery with no threat to his life, family or financial security whatsoever.

    like i said, let's all be true to our hearts. if you feel for him, fine with me. i don't. (btw when yao went down last year, i felt a litte sad for him as an individual since he tries so hard. but mostly i feel frustrated for our team and for myself as a fan.) let's not tell others what they should or should not do.
     
  7. badgerfan

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    Yeah, I feel real sorry for Amare skying to make a slam dunk and making millions of dollars.

    What makes you an immature kid is that you don't have any sense of perspective. You think that at some level the suffering McGrady's going through is even comparable to what goes on in the worst parts of the world.
     
  8. scalper

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    ouch.... I use to be able to play basketball 12 hours a day... now im lucky if my back dosent give out in 30 minutes... or I dont get winded before then....

    I think my long term investment porfolio just went down another $30000 today...

    someone feel sorry for me... better yet send me some cash!!! LOL

    come on ... when Tmac is staying at his 5 star hotel... in the Bahamas... drinking Mai Tai's on the beach

    im sure all the Tmac fans will feel real sorry for him... while they are flipping those burgers... and asking if we want to upsize
     
  9. badgerfan

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    LOL, exactly.

    $30,000? You're not a cyber-scalper are you? Hmm.
     
  10. JeopardE

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    Buddy, it's called being able to care, period. By your logic, I shouldn't care about my neighbor's car that got vandalized. After all, there are millions of people in underdeveloped nations who can't even afford to feed themselves, let alone buy a car. Only an immature kid would feel sorry for his neighbor in that situation. Your reasoning is appalling -- someone suffers an eye injury that could potentially cause him to go blind in that eye permanently, but you don't feel sorry for him because he's rich?

    Learn to care about other people, buddy. Your life doesn't mean much until you are able to look beyond yourself and reach out to others. It doesn't matter where they are in life, rich or poor, young or old, Beverly Hills or a village in Zimbabwe. They are still human beings, and they have needs. Life isn't about money. Actually, it's immature people that tend to think that life is all about money. But you're not immature, are you?
     
  11. badgerfan

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    No, I'm not, because my compassion scales with the amount of suffering somebody goes through. My friend got his car ripped off a few years ago. He never locked it. He had a new car a month later because his insurance kicked in. Plus he makes a lot of money anyway. Did I feel sorry for my friend? Not really. As a matter of fact everyone in our circle of friends joked about how much he loved that car.

    Now if it's some single mother and she needs that car to get to work and she's got no insurance, then I start to feel bad.

    You're just a kid because you think that money isn't important. My advice is to not listen to your crappy teachers and the after school specials you watch on the tube. As you grow older you're going to discover that money means food on the table. Money means heat in the winter. You're also a kid because you haven't figured out how to differentiate between what's important and what's not. Your neighbor got his car vandalized? Boo hoo hoo. People who have never suffered can't gauge the severity of suffering. You just don't get it, do you?
     
  12. JeopardE

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    LOL. Badgerfan actually thinks that maturity is measured by how much you value money.

    Nah, I don't get your reasoning. And I sure am thankful that I don't think like you do.
     
  13. scalper

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    me no I use to be a stock trader

    then I semi retired.... put my money in blue chip long term investments

    because it was suppose to be safer than scalping stock...

    as you can see that has worked out well... since the housing bubble...

    most of the stocks have lost 40% to 70% of their value...nothing to do but keep buying at intervals...


    sad situation.... yes....

    should people feel sorry for the millions of people like me in the same boat... no...


    we all knew what we were getting into, when we put the signature on the dotted line...

    ;)
     
  14. Doctor Robert

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    I haven't read the entire thread, but to clarify, Morey has stated that T-Mac's proposed microfracture surgery is not as risky career-wise as the microfracture surgery of several other players who have undergone it. T-Mac's surgery will be on a non-load bearing area of the joint. T-Mac has also stated that he will be back strong next season. I do not know if he is getting projected recovery times that are shorter than the 18 months that it has taken other players because of this.

    Does anyone have more detailed information on this?
     
  15. scalper

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    ^^^ ATTENTION PARENTS^^^^ JeopardE


    * okay to buy generic jeans

    * okay to buy a fake Iphone from China

    * okay to buy fake no name shirts

    * okay to buy Crocs (fake ones too!!!)


    someone get his parents!!!! :D
     
  16. JeopardE

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    I'm taking the "be back strong" statement as nothing more than an optimistic statement on his part, to try and give fans hope that he will return. The reality is that the odds are against him, if history is any indicator. I hope he is more successful than others have been, but realistically I don't know if one can expect him to be any more explosive than Grant Hill if/when he does make it back onto the court.
     
  17. JeopardE

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    So does this ad hominem attack somehow make you feel mature? Congratulations.
     
  18. DaDakota

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    J Kidd took 5 months, Stockton 2 months....

    It depends on the area and the procedure and the work ethic of the player going through rehab.

    DD
     
  19. JeopardE

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    I think it also has a lot to do with patience. From what I've read, a lot of players have suffered setbacks because they were too eager to get back on the court and either pushed too hard or started doing stuff too early. My understanding from what I've read is that it's not about how quickly you return, it's about how well ... a 12 month recovery done properly is much better than a 6 month recovery that is overdone.
     
  20. scalper

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    no... I would rather be a kid like you again....

    but it gave me a good laugh...

    but if you went and told the parents... you didnt want them to buy you anything anymore... and you were going to get a job to pay for clothes and school...

    Im sure your parents would have a good laugh too...
     

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